Bulls On Wall Street

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Owner of company makes outrageous claims that, “Over the last 10 years, I have made millions trading stocks”. However, absolutely no proof exists and owner of company refuses to show proof. Owner of company is touting an unregistered broker/dealer operation that is in clear violation of existing US securities laws, and is a clear and imminent target of the SEC. Former insider and sales manager of company (2 years) came forth and told the real story about company, “its nothing more than an educational mill that prey’s on the naive and churns out nothing but failed traders”.

Pros: Excellent marketing
Cons: A day trading education mill that offers a nearly worthless education at $3,000 per student. Owner of company makes incredible claims of making millions of dollars day trading stocks, yet can prove absolutely nothing of this supposed success. Company offering an outrageously illegal "hedge fund" which is nothing more than a unlicensed and unregistered broker dealer. A clear target for regulators and a ticking time bomb. A school for suckers.

Thanks for reading today’s review of BullsOnWallStreet.Com

Bulls On Wall Street is a day trading educational company that was founded in 2009 by Kunal Desai. The company offers two primary trading products. The first is a “boot camp” type educational course at a cost of $2,850. The course is considered a foundational course that teaches the basics of day trading stocks. The second product offering is a broker dealer offering under the name: CliqueFund. What exactly is CliqueFund? CliqueFund is a quasi broker dealer not dissimilar to an ordinary stock broker like TD Ameritrade or Interactive Brokers. CliqueFund accepts client deposits into a personal trading account that is at the majority control of Kunal Desai. These client funds are pooled together into a single trading account. This account is then used to partition out portions of the account to aspiring day traders.

Why is CliqueFund pooling together customer funds? Quite simply, there is regulation in place that specifically prohibits accounts with less than $25k from making more than 4 day trades per week. In addition to restricting the amount of trades that a small account can place during the week, there are also rules in place that severely restrict the amount of leverage that these small account holders can access. The typical amount is 2/1 leverage. BullsOnWallStreet has devised a clever mechanism that specifically circumvents long standing securities laws. Specifically, how do they circumvent? In order to become a part of the BullsOnWallStreet “CliqueFund”, a person must first purchase the $2,850 educational boot camp. Once the person has purchased the boot camp, they are then admitted into CliqueFund. However, once they are admitted, they must immediately deposit an additional amount of $2,500 to $10,000. Once the deposit has been made in Kunal Desai’s trading account, they are then able to day trade with a margin amount of $25,000 to $200,000.

There are other costs associated with being a member of CliqueFund. Each trader is charged $335 per month to be a member. In addition, the trader must pay a commission per trade of .0024 per share of stock. At the end of each month, the trader must also pay Kunal 10% of any earnings from their day trading.

It is important to note that any funds deposited into Kunal’s CliqueFund will not be returned to the depositor, at any time. In other words, if you deposit $2,500 with Kunal, then your account balance immediately begins draining to the tune of $11 per day. If you do not trade, then at the end of the month, the balance will be $2,165. It is also important to note that a person cannot withdraw any funds unless the account balance is above the original deposit amount.

What happens if a person runs the account balance down to $500? The account is closed and Kunal keeps the $500. What happens if a person deposits $5,000 into Kunal’s trading account and then one week later, they encounter an emergency and need their $5,000 returned to them? The money is forfeited to Kunal. Once the deposit money is given to Kunal, then the money is his to do with as he deems.

Can a person continue to deposit more money into Kunal’s trading account? Yes. Kunal describes continued deposits into his trading account as “re-education fee’s”. Kunal will always gladly accept your money into his trading account.

Is this legal?

BullsOnWallStreet likes to describe CliqueFund as a “hedge fund”, however in interviews with T3 Capital, which is a fully licensed and regulated prop trading firm located in the United States, they describe CliqueFund as an outrageous scheme that’s sole purpose is to flagrantly circumvent US securities laws meant to protect investors from outright thievery. T3 Capital describes these types of firms as fly by night operations that are doomed to failure. “Eventually, securities regulators at the SEC will take notice and shut them down”.  T3 describes this situation not as a “IF they will be shut down” but as a “WHEN will they be shut down”.

In my experiences with writing this blog, I have also come across several of these unlicensed prop trading firms that also circumvented US securities laws by pooling together client funds. The results were not pretty for investors at the prop firm known as Nonko. They were accepting trading accounts and simply allowing people to trade only on a trading simulator. Most people never knew they were trading on a simulator until after I published my article the proved that trades were only in SIM mode. Nonko would simply keep their monies without ever placing their trades on an exchange. In the rare instance where a trader would actually make money, Nonko would simply refuse to pay the trader. After publishing my article, Nonko quickly pulled down all of their websites and disappeared. The situation was a real mess for a lot of folks, and a real learning experience for me. This experience also was my first interactions with SEC investigators where I was not the target, instead I was helping them.

One of the SEC investigators that I conversed with is now in private practice and we spoke by telephone about CliqueFund. I asked his opinion and he gave a hilarious response, “This CliqueFund is about as much a hedge fund as an ice cream sandwich”. And, “we have seen these schemes come and go, over and over, it amazes me that people continually get suckered into these schemes”.

The big problem with these unregistered broker dealers like CliqueFund is that once the SEC finally arrives to shut them down, the money simply disappears. Some fine examples would be Lake Street Trading, Broadstreet Trading, Juggernaught Trading, IBWorldwide Trading, Nonko, and Team Trading. All of these firms shut down overnight and all funds went missing. What does an SEC shut down actually look like? You would think that the SEC would show up like thugs and kick doors and flash badges, but this is usually not the case. The SEC simply sends a one page letter that warns the entity to “Cease and Desist” from accepting customer funds and that they need to become registered. The proprietors of these unregistered broker dealers simply close up shop and keep the money. Does the depositor or customer have any recourse? Nope. This is all considered a civil manner and the only path forward for deposit holders is to hire a lawyer and file a lawsuit. Of course, most people do not do this and the scammers move onto the next scam.

Is CliqueFund a scam? In my opinion, it is not a scam. Rather, it is more like a food truck that shows up at the football stadium on game day. The stadium officials (SEC, T3 Capital, etc) that are all abiding by the rules are pissed off because Kunal’s food truck just showed up, and he is selling hot dogs  and beer for only $5. All of the underfunded folks are going to rush to buy the cheap dogs and beer, and of course the stadium officials want to keep folks paying $7 for a hot dog and $14 for a beer. Once the stadium officials find Kunal they tell him to beat it, and he does. Usually very quickly. And this is exactly how CliqueFund is going to disappear, a letter will arrive from the SEC to Kunal and he will simply shut down.

How long before the SEC shuts down CliqueFund? This of course is the million dollar question. Truthfully, nobody really knows when an SEC hit is about to take place. However, the louder and more aggressive the marketing of the unregistered broker dealer, the quicker the SEC moves. There are several of these broker dealer/pooled resources trading operations currently in existence and they have been able to remain intact for several years. Why? Because they stay ridiculously small and do not flagrantly advertise all over the internet. In fact, I have spoken to two separate trading groups that are currently pooling together resources and they were kind enough to give me open access on how these operations are set up. Both firms are very concerned with the size and scope of Kunal Desai’s CliqueFund. A good example would be the local pot dealer that grows a few plants in his back yard, and enjoys the bounty amongst a few friends. This type of activity is not going to bring the authorities. However, Kunal appears to be very aggressively and flamboyant about marketing his unregistered broker dealer. How aggressive and flamboyant? Very. So much so, that three separate trading educational firms are now aggressively pushing the scheme.

CliqueFund: BullsOnWallStreet, Fous Alerts, Lincoln List

Clique Fund is less than one year old. In terms of age, its a baby. However, it is currently being very aggresively marketed by not only BullsOnWallStreet, but also FousAlerts and The Lincoln List. Many of you are probably aware of my review of Fous Alerts. Its no secret that I have a high level of disdain for Cameron Fous of Fous Alerts. You can read all about Cameron Fous in the following review. In a nutshell, Cameron Fous is complete and total fraud that claims he makes millions of dollars each year day trading stocks, however no proof can ever be found or provided. To see Fous Alerts aggressively pushing this is a huge red flag. It is also outrageous that he touts this unregistered broker dealer all over his website and YouTube, which of course garners thousands of eyeballs.

The one thing that all three of these organizations have in common is that each of these organizations require that the trader spend about $3,000 in educational costs in order to be admitted into the CliqueFund. The educational costs serve as an entry fee.

What exactly is happening here?

Many readers might be wondering why I am spending so much time talking about CliqueFund, and not the educational product known as BullsOnWallStreet? Let me explain. The average person that purchases the BullsOnWallStreet, FousAlerts, Lincoln List day trading educational product is typically young, naive about financial products, and extremely underfunded. The typical person that gets caught up in these types of schemes is hoping to turn a few thousands dollars into new career as a full time day trader. These trading educators have tailored their educational products to specifically target this demographic by offering a supposed complete solution to become a full time professional day trader.

The average person that falls for the pitch usually has no more than $5k in cash that they are able to scrape together through savings and credit cards. The primrose path of these educators is to entice the naive person into first spending $3,000 on the educational product, and that this educational product is the exact knowledge that they will need to become a full time day trader. In addition, they offer a live day trading room experience that gives the impression that once a person obtains this wonderful secret day trading knowledge, that they will also be able to shadow trade the guru, and by proxy will be able to copy his success. The final piece of the puzzle is the supposition that a $2,500 deposit into Clique Fund, and the leverage to $25,000 is the capital that they will need to make their day trading dreams come true. Unfortunately, their eyes sparkle brightly towards the big round number of $25,000, but in reality they are only allowed to lose $2,000 of their own money.

The shadowy promise of 10-1 leverage is only a mirage of opportunity. It feels like you are getting a lot of money, but in reality you are only getting the ability to lose your $2,000 of your own money extremely fast. There is no possible way to lose beyond the deposit amount.

In its entirety, you can see the synergistic effect of all three components. The first is the secret day trading knowledge that the victim must acquire for $3k, the next is the live trading room that gives the impression that they can simply copy the guru and achieve success, and the third is the promise of massive leverage over a tiny trading account. All three components work together to create a very compelling fantasy.

What is the fantasy?

One thing that you will notice with BullsOnWallStreet and FousAlerts is that both make some bold and outrageous claims. For instance, in the following snippet that was taken from the BullsOnWallStreet website, notice how Kunal boldly claims that, “Over the last ten years I’ve made millions trading stocks.” Pretty bold claim! However, just try and ask for proof of this amazing trading success. I did. However, after several months of asking for proof, none has arrived and I expect none ever will.

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Another thing that Kunal does is post supposed monthly profits he earned with his day trading. Some of these are borderline outrageous…and if not provable clearly demonstrate fraud. Why? Because all of these results must be accompanied with a disclaimer that states whether they are simulated or real. The lack of disclosures implies that these are real results. Have a look for yourself…all taken from Archive.Org. Notice the lack of disclosure.

Trades for June $32,500.

Trades for August $48,800

These are just two of the quick snippets of the supposed amazing trading abilities of Kunal Desai. I recommend that readers have a look at Archive.Org and browse through his stated results pages. Amazing stuff folks. Month after month he claims $20k, 30k, 40k, 50k, etc. But where is the proof? Is it really too much to ask if any of this is real? Also, I believe most damning is that I could find absolutely zero losing months. By his own marketing magic, he seems to be the worlds most perfect day trader with no losing months. Heck, if I were making all of this money with amazing ease, then why sell my magic to the masses?

Trader Porn

Of course, these amazing trading results are only part of the pornography that Kunal employs that create the fantasy image of his trading success and fantasy lifestyle. A look at the Bulls On Wall Street facebook page reveals Kunal driving around in convertible sports cars and travelling to exotic locations all over the world. All of this imagery is what I like to call “Trader Porn”. These images are meant to convey a sense of freedom, wealth, and fun. The idea behind these images is to convey that all of this wealth is possible through Kunal, and all you need is a lap top computer. You too can travel all over the world and make millions of dollars day trading and living the “baller” lifestyle. Have a look at some of the images…

So what exactly are these images? What do they really mean? In a nutshell, these images are a Red Herring. They are nothing more than clever visual distraction that are meant to divert your Red Herring Distractionattention away from suspicion. All of these images are pure theater, well scripted image candy. Any rational person would look at this Kunal person and ask the following rational questions…Question #1: Does this Kunal guy trade? And to what degree of success or failure? By learning this, we can evaluate whether his teaching is worthy of time and investment. Question #2: How are his students performing inside of the “CliqueFund”? Are they profitable, are people making money? This is another clue as  to whether we should participate. The truth is that I do not really know if Kunal has really made millions of dollars trading, as he claims. He could provide me proof, and the tone and tenor of this review would be quite different. However, he simply refuses to verify his amazing claims of day trading success. So, I am only left with collecting evidence, wherever I can find it. Sometimes evidence pops up in the strangest places.

Conversations with an insider

On the first week of January 2016, I began to receive a string of emails from a random person that said that I really needed to write a review of Bulls On Wall Street. After a few back and forth emails, I was able to establish that the person in question was the former sales manager at Bulls On Wall Street. Apparently, this person (whom prefers to remain anonymous) had quite a story to tell. The following is the email that I received from the insider on January 8th, 2016.

I would prefer everything that I tell you to remain anonymous. Obviously I need a motive for coming to you, right? Basically, it is this.  I used to work for them (Bulls On Wall Street) after being a student of theirs and got left high and dry. Kunal has no regards for his “employees”, much less his students.  I can tell you how the bootcamp works, their costs, how to pay virtually nothing for it, the setup, and who Kunal really is as a person.  I can tell you that he doesn’t have one successful student out there floating around and that Maribeth doesn’t even trade anymore for 2 reasons: she is too busy trying to hustle in students for the bootcamp and chatroom and she can’t trade profitably anymore.

You want to now how profitable Kunal really is trading?  I can fill you in on everything from his fake trades to his so-called screenshare not being real-time.  I also know the ins and outs on Clique and that it is set up illegally, acting as a hedge fund when it should really be setup as a prop firm and that I never saw one profitable trader in that fund.
What is your motive behind all of this?  I can give you tons of details to write probably one of the best reviews you have but I’m just curious.  Also, you have made a name for yourself within the trading community and Bulls was scared of what you would find out if you kept prying. Are you here to just write reviews to help the trading community?  Is there any money for you in it?  Trust me, I’m not looking for anything on you…just want to know how to go about it!

After I received this email, I was quite intrigued and certainly needed to authenticate that the identity of this person before I published or spoke with this person further. My next step was to contact a former subscriber as well as cleverly speak with the current sales manager at BullsOnWallStreet to authenticate that this person was the real deal. After I was able to pin down the identity of the person, I next initiated a telephone call to the former sales manager. What he told me was very interesting.

Telephone call from the insider

On January 9th, 2015 I recorded a telephone call that lasted approximately 30 minutes in length. The person in question described themselves as an employee of nearly 2 years of Kunal Desai. He had recently left the company and needed to talk. My first question was why? And why now? The person described their journey as beginning like any other student, with so much hope of becoming a full time professional day trader. He placed all of his trust and faith in Kunal and truly believed that he was a good person. Eventually, at some point in 2014, Kunal offered him a job selling mentorship packages to the approximately 200 leads that were coming in monthly.

At first, he enjoyed the money. But after awhile it became apparent that nobody was making any money from trading (including the instructors), rather all of the monies were from selling trading mentorship packages to the general public. The sole and entire focus of the organization is to paint this fantasy of how much a person can make, and then ultimitely pitch the $3,000 educational package. The vast majority of these people were total newbies and have no idea what they are getting themselves into. Selling this fantasy was too easy.

Eventually, at some point he began to really question what he was doing. That nagging drumbeat of his conscious began to grow louder and louder. When we are young and just trying to survive, its easy to put aside the goodness that all humans innately carry. We sacrifice it in the name of survival. But as we grow older, we learn that the nagging conscious is warning us of the uglyness that is slowly consuming our soul. This is exactly what happened to this young person. At some point, the money was just not worth it anylonger. How many lies can a person tell, day after day, and continue to function? I certainly know how he feels. I took the ugly path for many years, all in the name of money. Always trying to pile on more money, in hopes that it would fill the growing black hole that was my soul.

For this young person, the final straw that threw him over the edge was when he got to see exactly what Kunal was earning from his supposed amazing day trading abilities…for 2015 he could only verify that Kunal had earned only a very paltry sum from his trading. He was shocked. At that point, he knew it was over. He could no longer sell the lie and live with himself.

Coming clean is painful

The insider that helped me craft this review, it took a tremendous amount of courage for this person to come forward. Some of the readers might be tempted to lash out and say that this person is no better than Kunal Desai. For he did sell the product for nearly two years, and surely a tremendous amount of people got taken in. Some readers might also be thinking that this is just a disgruntled ex employee with an ax to grind. I am sure that there is a small amount of truth at every angle of the argument. However, my message to this person that came clean is very simple…you are a decent human being. You have probably saved countless others from falling into the fantasy trap that Kunal is so adept at constructing. And you probably feel like I might of said too much about what we talked about over the telephone. However, what you said was your truth, and it needed to be told. It took a lot of courage and I am sure that the trading community appreciates what you have done.

Wrapping Things Up

I am sure that there are going to be a tremendous amount of people that are going to feel betrayed by BullsOnWallStreet. And there are also going to be quite a few people that are going to feel that their trading guru, Kenal Desai has been wronged by this review. However, I believe that overall, now that all of the evidence has been weighed and the former sales manager came forth to tell the inside story…the evidence clearly points toward BullsOnWallStreet being yet another scam operation. An operation where the guru himself, which has claimed to make millions of dollars day trading, simply cannot prove his claims of million dollar trading profits. Furthermore, his disdain for existing securities laws, however unpopular gives a sense into his character. For if he is willing to flagrantly circumvent US securities regulations, then he is probably willing to also take advantage of the people that have placed their hopes and dreams in his trading program.

That’s it for today. Thanks for reading this review, it was a long one. And please leave your comments below. Even the haters and trolls will find that their voices will be heard.


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David (@guest_5061738)
26 days ago

Pics videos of proof works/worked with Ragingbull who was charged by the FTC and has $137 m in assets frozen and hacking my accounts as Google Service Provider and Google Scholars , Comcast and Norton lifelock noc manager Josh mudryk is founder of AMG Solutions a Google Service Provider and director of Tradersync a trading journal platform

David (@guest_5061737)
26 days ago

I have proof of them being connected with servers to brokers and who they really are , google service provider and google scholar that works with tdameritrade Canada and few others

Brenda Branson
Brenda Branson (@guest_3050331)
1 year ago

I don’t agree, I’ve taken the Bulls on Wall Street Bootcamp and I’ve also been in the chat room daily for over 8 months now and I’ve been averaging over $1000.00 usd per week. If you follow anyone’s trades 100% you’re nothing but a sheep IMHO. That’s why I’m continually educations myself on trading. But I can say that Kunal’s trades are hard to follow because he’s fast and furious (in & out). if you try to follow him without placing stop losses of course you’re going to get burnt. It sounds to me like you’re sour grapes or else couldn’t keep up. If you want to be successful at ‘day-trading’ you had better first learn about setting stops and reading charts correctly. Watch the price action, the volume and always go with the trend making sure the daily charts align with the intraday charts.

Neil Patel
Neil Patel (@guest_3048241)
1 year ago

Bulls on fraud street

Kunal Desai is being investigated by the SEC!! His clique fund has been shut down abruptly and won’t return any traders money. He claims his broker left them in the middle. I don’t care! It’s not my problem!! Return us our money!! I’ve watched him in the chat room, his trading sucks. If you follow his trades to the tee, you will lose money. His trader Szaman is the one who calls out solid trades and Paul’s trades are good. His employees are pretty rude. His star protege Maribeth has quit due to differences with him. His other employee outed him and kunal sued him. There are plenty of other stock trading gurus to choose from. Avoid!!

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justin t
justin t (@guest_4055485)
1 year ago
Reply to  Neil Patel

why don’t you put a review on trust pilot

Neil Patel
Neil Patel (@guest_3048236)
1 year ago

Bulls on fraud street

Kunal Desai is being investigated by the SEC. His clique fund has been shut down abruptly and won’t return any traders money. He claims his broker left them in the middle. I don’t care! It’s not my problem!! Return us our money!! I’ve watched him in the chat room, his trading sucks. If you follow his trades to the tee, you will lose money. His trader Szaman is the one who calls out solid trades. His employees are pretty rude. His star protege Maribeth has quit due to differences with him. His other employee outed him and kunal sued him. There are plenty of other stock trading gurus to choose from. Avoid!!

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justin t
justin t (@guest_4055484)
1 year ago
Reply to  Emmett Moore

I did a 2 year investigation on this company with a unnamed govt agency. I finally got permission from my supervisors to put this final review up. (they deleted my acct from there database but i will set up a blog with the screencasts of my credit card bills from this company) First let me start out by saying it’s not illegal what he’s done except for one thing that i will clarify at the end. If a customer is willing to buy a item like the bootcamp that they can get for free by just using a few google searches and spend $3000 on it it’s their own stupidity. There’s been over 40 bootcamps with over 50 students in each. Where are all the students singing praise on Kunal, his first student Maribeth shut down her trading career after a year because the system isn’t profitable. THEY SCAM THE TRUST PILOT SYSTEM AND PUT UP ALL THESE GLOWING REVIEWS. How you ask? They sign up for service under a false name, that generates a trustpilot survey. Kunal has no verifiable trades. He paper trades on his live screen share chatroom. Now here’s the illegal, They had a service called Clique Fund which allowed students to join and access “supposedly” Kunal capital to trade with.You would pay them $2500 for a $2000 trading account (yes the greed in this man took 20% off the top that you were aware of) and $300 per month for a poor platform. BUT WHAT YOU ARE UNAWARE OF your orders weren’t being executed at any exchange. It was a ponzi scheme, they would keep all the sign up money It’s basically free money to them because you couldn’t take out anything unless they were profits and they preyed on new traders because their chance of having profit was .000001%. How do i know this? We followed the executions. You got hand it to this guy, he registered all his credit card transactions at his parents address, so all his credit card transaction crimes would be on his parents. If you want to inquire about getting your money back from this guy you can contact me at a gmail acct jno712 (you know the rest). This is directly at you Kunal if you delete this, it doesn’t matter because we came to terms with Google to get the 1st search result for BOWS reviews when our blog goes live. FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE GUYS LIKE THIS IS WHY THEY HAVEN’T DENACTED THE PDT RULE.

Osama Kamal
Osama Kamal (@guest_32435)
2 years ago

So glad I read this before sending my money $19.95,,,yes that is what it got down to and no course for that amount of money is worth the paper its written on. To be frank I have been trading for years and 99% of people out there are great scam artists and they feed on your wanting to be financially free of the 9-5 grind. Larry Williams is real trader so check him out. As for this con artist, seasoned traders can suss him out very quickly and he should change the firm’s name to Bullshit on Wall Street!!!

jim (@guest_32437)
2 years ago
Reply to  Osama Kamal

They offered you the course for $19.95? wow

Rob (@guest_32370)
2 years ago


I have done quite a few of these courses, training, chat and I can tell you that BOW in my humble view is not fake but then again is it a good service?. 1. Kunal does make possibly 98%+ of his money selling educational services. 2. Are they value for money depends on the student and their level, expectations, willingness to learn and natural ability. 3. Like Tim Sykes, he likes to sell you the dream, tells people that his mission is to help others. This does not make him a bad person, just a businessman. Maybe unethical to push it too far but sometimes some people think legal is moral 4. Does he prey on the naive, possibly, but there are some complete outright fraudsters out there. 5. He wont show his track record, probably because he is now focused on selling subscriptions and services and trading itself takes a backseat. He possibly was not that great a trader but unless he shows his audited accounts who knows 6. Traders become educators because they see more money in it and possibly some educators do want to help people. I caveat that with probably the vast majority just want to make money without the risk and also front run. Many trading chatrooms know their followers/subscribers will just follow their alerts giving them a huge trading edge.

If you want to do well in trading, you need to educate yourself, get the experience in the market (screentime), find the right strategy for yourself-not just take someone else’s strategy as you will have different account sizes, personality, physchology and strengths and weaknesses and persist.

By the way I like this review as investimonial’s one is one sided and this is one sided in the other direction, you can get both sides of the story and make up your own mind.

BOW is not fake but uses clever marketing to get you to buy their services. You can learn to be a good trader from its teachings but with 90% of traders failing the odds are against you. BOW might swing it a few percentage points in your favor but don’t blame them if you don’t become an overnight success.


The Boy Plunger
The Boy Plunger (@guest_32157)
2 years ago

Emmet sensors reviews and comments. I am a profitable bulls on wallstreet student. I learned everything from them. No idea where Emmit gos his info but it is 100% wrong. I put that on my life and my families lives

Stray Dog
Stray Dog (@guest_32168)
2 years ago

Looking forward to seeing your verified track record of trading profitably Boy Plunger.

mike (@guest_31469)
3 years ago

I actually take kunals bootcamp. It took me from knowing nothing to now getting results. These guys are the real deal, unless my results im getting are also fake….

Kunal (@guest_31048)
3 years ago

Bunch of losers! Fuck all y’all.

Stray Dog
Stray Dog (@guest_31064)
3 years ago
Reply to  Kunal

Nice dummy spit Kunal.

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Tim Sykes
Tim Sykes (@guest_4055510)
1 year ago
Reply to  Kunal

Here’s the true Kunal, the POS he is. His mom is so proud of him, if she only knew how her home was being paid for!! Sorry kunal dog we are busted

Just Don\'t
Just Don\'t (@guest_31005)
3 years ago

People need to realize a majority of the money made via Clique fund is from the data fees, which are absurd. 11 dollars a day (7 days a week). You can get cheaper per share trading at other brokers. The only advantage is the allure of getting additional leverage.

Also, if you want to take a break from trading, there is a 37 dollar a week “inactivity fee.” Consider yourselves warned.

Guess what
Guess what (@guest_30613)
3 years ago

I’m just surprised how stupid people are. And I’m referring to the comments above. I’m not affiliated with any of these guys, but Tim Sykes was the reason I got into the game and after penny stocking didn’t work out – even though it’s possible to make it work, but it’s not for me – I stumbled upon these guys. I don’t know why do you even pay for their boot camp, if 99% of the information what they are offering are free on youtube from their live videos and tutorials. That should be more than enough to be profitable. But most people are morons and don’t know what is hard work. They think trading is a brainless job and anybody can do it. Well in that case the comment writer must be retarded, since he/she can’t make money. Sometimes it seems you guys just don’t have what it takes. Like Tim, Kunal and the others, I also worked 14-16 hours 7 days a week for months in a different field, you just get though and get a good work ethic. Doing stocks after that is a piece of cake. But I feel most of you would newer make that sacrifice, instead crying that they sold you something that didn’t make you rich. Even though they SAY it might take months, even years to get profitable and it’s not a get rich quick scheme, it’s a profession. I feel sorry for some of you to be that dumb that you honestly thought that you going to watch a tutorial dvd and next thing you know you are driving a lambo. I really hope nobody will ever attempt to sell you a brain surgeon dvd and 2 months later you are cutting open your grandparents, because it pays a million a year. It’s that ridiculous.

It’s possible to make a living sole from trading, 10% of traders do that, the other 90% rotates out. Please, keep feeding us and keep being a sheep! Have a great day 🙂

A Former BOWS Student
A Former BOWS Student (@guest_29253)
3 years ago

This is the most comprehensive knock-down I have ever read of the BOWS service and ‘hedge fund’. Kudos to you for posting it, I hope at least a few people find this before giving their money to them.

As a former bootcamp student, I’d like to share a few of my personal experiences and insights with you.

Firstly, the education you receive through the bootcamp is actually quite good. It DOES teach you a lot about trading patterns, the day trading world, and the stock market in general. That said, it is significantly overpriced. If you know where to look, you can give yourself the same education for about 1/10th the cost (for example by watching free videos on Youtube, buying some books and videos from traderslibrary.com, and other methods). The bootcamp in and of itself is not a scam per se, as there’s really no crime in charging people an inflated price for aggregating and repackaging information they’re too lazy to seek out on their own (this is the model that universities thrive on). However, keep in mind that with trading (unlike some other professions), knowledge his a necessary but not sufficient condition for success — if you don’t have the right psychology for trading you can easily lose even if you know what to do. And, for someone with a comparatively small amount of capital, this is the most probably outcome.

The real shady side of all of this, as you’ve pointed out, comes from the ‘hedge fund’, as well as the psychology used to market all of his products (chatroom, bootcamp, hedge fund, other services). You’re absolutely right, it is aimed at naive underfunded newbies who don’t know better. And it seems to have worked exceptionally well for him. But there are a number of reasons I (now) see that explain why it probably won’t work for most of the students:

1) Kunal claims to be a professional day trader. The first question you should have in your mind the anyone claims to be a professional anything is this: “So that means you earn your primary source of income from doing that thing, right?”. With Kunal, the answer is a resounding NO. He is a professional stock market education service provider (and, I would argue, a pipe dream seller too). A while back he posted a Youtube video where he bragged his company had brought in $3M that year from his services. In other words, that is how he makes his ‘real’ money. He could therefore afford to lose money on the stock market every single month and still be ‘profitable’. The same is true for precisely ZERO of the students.

2) As for the hedge fund, questions of its legitimacy aside, people need to realize the fees it charges are ABSURD by industry standards. And by the way it’s set up, there is actually ZERO risk for Kunal and BOWS – once you quickly lose the money you’ve put in, you’re locked out and continue to get charged fees. Additionally, the money you put in is really there so that it can be leveraged by Kunal himself to continue his trading. So again, even if he lost money every month by trading, he would still make money on it because of the fees he collects, and the bait towards paying for other BOWS products. The entirety of the risk is shouldered by YOU, the poor plebe.

3) OK, but surely you can sign up for the chat room and make money copying his trades right? Actually, the answer is more than likely NO, for a few reasons. Firstly, most of the trades require a level of buying power you DON’T have, so even if you make more winning trades than not, you may very well still only break even or even lose money after fees are taken into consideration (whether you trade with them or another broker). Also, keep in mind that by following another trader, what you are actually doing is allowing him to ‘front run’ his trades. That is, he takes an entry, then reports it to his room, then has people follow into that trade. Your chances of making money on his trades therefore, while certainly not non-existent, are definitely FAR less than his are.

4) The ‘mentorship’ aspect of the education he provides is virtually non-existent. Yes, you may get ‘some’ personal feedback if you literally harass the shit out of him or someone else at the firm, but if you think you’re signing up to be taken under some millionaire’s magical wing, you are going to be sadly disappointed.

In thinking about my experiences with BOWS (taking the bootcamp, entering the hedge fund, getting booted by the hedge fund (due to roughly $1000 in losses I took plus roughly the same in fees I was charged), I have very mixed emotions. I did learn quite a bit. And I do still think that, at least at some point in the past, his intentions were actually good, i.e. to help people learn to trade and make money (and of course to make a living for himself doing so, which in and of itself is not wrong). But somewhere along the way, he realized it was far more profitable to sell this ‘trader porn’ to people and to collect their money hand over fist. He has become just as bad as Tim Sykes, if not worse. The hedge fund is an absolute pit of despair for anyone other than him. I honestly hope the SEC shuts him down and prevent him from fleecing more naive, unsuspecting aspirants.

Mike M
Mike M (@guest_29263)
3 years ago

This was a very informative post. He is selling everyone the dream and he knows very well that it is a pipe dream, especially for vastly under funded traders. He can trade live recklessly and average down without worrying about the losses because of his other rackets keeping him in the green. That hedge fund is a regulators nightmare. Nothing about that fund is legit. I am surprised the regulators haven’t shut it down yet and whisked everyone off to federal prison. The fees alone he is charging so that a trader can risk their own capital is a joke. Why would anyone consider paying those exorbitant fees? It’s insane. He knows that no one will succeed and that basically that money once deposited is going into his account. It is a blatant fraud.

The Boy Plunger
The Boy Plunger (@guest_32159)
2 years ago
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Stray Dog
Stray Dog (@guest_32167)
2 years ago

Why are Mike M’s statements and claims wrong Boy Plunger? He’s provided as much proof as you and Kunal have provided to support yours.

dtchurn (@guest_29280)
3 years ago

Thank you for sharing this personal experience of the bows services. The educational part is put in a better light, but ultimately it’s no better than the usual snakeoil and very low bar since one could find much of the educational material elsewhere from far cheaper or free resources. From what you’ve described it does sound like a new empire of sham and very similar to Sykes modus and perhaps still outpacing the fleecing profits of Ross’ Warrior Trading although I don’t doubt his shamroom and site are churning at least a million in profits per year now. Was there any evidence of other students who had “great” success after the bootcamp? Was there a verifiable and truthful reporting of the fund’s performance in any way? It sounds like it has reached “prosham” status as one of the best retail churning organizations out there and agreed it would now only be stopped if handcuffed away from their simshow pc’s for good by some nation authorities.

A Former BOWS Student
A Former BOWS Student (@guest_30463)
3 years ago
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A few responses:

1) “one could find much of the educational material elsewhere from far cheaper or free resources”.

Yes, absolutely. If you knew where to look, I would estimate you could give yourself a similar education to their $3000 bootcamp for under $500. Possibly even free. They bank on the fact that people getting into this don’t know where to look or are afraid to do it themselves.

2) “it does sound like a new empire of sham and very similar to Sykes modus”

When I first got involved in BOWS, one of the things I liked about it was that Kunal seemed to be the antithesis of Sykes. As time has gone on, he’s become more and more like him, offering new, pricey, pointless services and hype, filling your email with spam, to the point they’re now pretty much indistinguishable.

3) Was there any evidence of other students who had “great” success after the bootcamp? Was there a verifiable and truthful reporting of the fund’s performance in any way?

When I first started trading after the bootcamp I had great success. Then market conditions changed, and I lost all my gains (and then some). This type of course teaches you enough to be really dangerous to yourself. You may win for a while, but you don’t really have an understanding of market dynamics, which takes years to gain.

As far as I am aware, there is NO verified reporting of the fund’s profitability. I’m sure some bootcamp students have moderate degrees of success (as I initially did), but there is no evidence that any of them were able to transition in to full time independent traders, at least that I’ve seen.

justADude (@guest_31270)
3 years ago

Bragging about $3M in revenue. What a douche. I heard Jason Bond do similarly a few years ago at $2M/yr. The ludicrous part is that they take pride in how savvy they think they are as marketing and sales geniuses. Jason Bond is about as smart as a monkey wrench and a genius in no capacity whatsoever. Kunal is a driveling, ADHD, bull-shit artist who relies on his preprogrammed high energy, presentation style to carry on some remote semblance of intelligent, useful information.

The Boy Plunger
The Boy Plunger (@guest_32158)
2 years ago

Maybe you should have put in more effort. I to took the bootcamp. I knew absolutley nothing before I took it and now I am a consistently profitable trader. The_boy_plunger on IG. Emmit should honestly be ashamed of himself as a human being for trying to hurt another mans living. This is as real as it gets but you have to put in the effort. Kunal teaches but you have to get experience and practice what he teaches. No different from doctors, lawyers etc

Stray Dog
Stray Dog (@guest_32166)
2 years ago

“No different from doctors, lawyers etc” except that a doctors and lawyers have to study approved courses, pass exams and demonstrate competence to other highly trained and competent doctors and lawyers before they are allowed to practice on real people. Kunal didn’t have to do any of that before he called himself a professional trader and started his business. The Boy Plunger, please send your verified trading statements to Emmett or put them in Dropbox. Without at least that amount of proof your claims mean nothing.

a turd u never plunged
a turd u never plunged (@guest_4055509)
1 year ago

Kunal if your going to post a fake review please don’t use the doctor/lawyer bit that you use in your bootcamp.

Lee (@guest_28303)
3 years ago

Any thoughts on Paul Singh. He is the swing trading guy for Bulls on Wall Street?

Past Student
Past Student (@guest_10848)
4 years ago

I’m a past student of Bullsonwallstreet. I’ve taken the courses many times and even traded in their CliqueFund twice with no success. After spending about $17,500 between education and trading, I’ve decided that daytrading is not for me. Daytrading took tremendous amout of discipline, and attention span which I didn’t have. Believe me, it was very boring most of the time just sitting there waiting for the next setup. Like they say 90% of daytraders fail, I believe it’s true even with proper education.

I do think the course is good and worth it if daytrading is what you really want to do. But just be forewarned that it is much, much, much harder than you can ever imagine. They do allow you to retake the course as many times as you want for free.

Kunal is a success story but I believe he made most of the money from selling his training course and hedgefund. He also uses Maribeth as a marketing tool to convince people that anybody can be successful at daytrading because she did it in a very short period of time. She is, however, an employee for Bullsonwallstreet and getting paid between $250k and $500k a year to sell the product. It took Sayed Zaman over 20 years to become a successful daytrader.
All BOWS employees are very well paid. They don’t depend on daytrading to make a living.

FWIW, just do a real honest self analysis before spending the money.

Stray Dog
Stray Dog (@guest_10855)
4 years ago
Reply to  Past Student

Thanks for sharing your experience but my take on the course would be different. You sound like you were conscientious and dedicated to becoming profitable as a day trader and if you weren’t able to succeed how useful can the course be? In my opinion not very useful at all especially as no one at BOWS is depending on day trading for their living.

Past Student
Past Student (@guest_10864)
4 years ago
Reply to  Stray Dog

Daytrading is a lot like golf which is 70 to 90% mental. You can have the best technique but it doesn’t mean you will be able to handle the pressure of tournaments.

I don’t blame BOWS for my failure. It was totally my fault to not able to bridge the mental gap.

To be honest, I do wish sometimes that Kunal wasn’t the moderator of the chatroom. He would routinely set very bad examples by taking gamble trades and blew out his daily limit within the first hour. Sayed Zaman and Maribeth would’ve been better moderators, especially for newbies.

Past Student
Past Student (@guest_10868)
4 years ago
Reply to  Past Student

Do you know that for sure? She tweets like she is still trading. lol

Ron (@guest_9573)
4 years ago

Somebody’s Jelly.

I don’t know who Emmett Moore is and I don’t really care.
A REAL member of the BOWS member here to give you a little insight into what is really going on.
I happened to find this review because instead of typing in the website to the search bar tonight, I entered it into google and saw this ridiculous review.

I signed up for BOWS last May in order to learn about trading. I knew nothing about trading before hand.

I am a firm believer that Time is money, and the information and resources I have acquired and still continue to aquire for $2500 is nothing compared to the time and money I would have lost and spent trying to learn everything I know about trading since I have been with the group.

I’m not going to go into details and argue about this with Emmet because he has absolutely no idea what he is talking about in this review. Sign up for the course and Kunal will let you stay with him at his house and watch him trade and teach you one on one, no joke.

No one is forced to join the Clique fund. I am definitely not a part of it and never plan to be, although the commissions are pretty low. I’ve made my own capitol and have no reason to join, It is beneficial for people with very low capitol to join though because they give you buying power based on how successful you are at your trading. This helps them not lose and helps the individual trader learn a very important strategy in trading.

The community is awesome as there is an innate about of people willing to help each other and give each other advice, this alone to me is priceless due to the amount of resources and info it provides alone.

When my girlfriend went to college, she paid almost 20k for Baking in Houston at the Art Institute of Houston. For BAKING I tell you, where she will not make but a small percentage of what a successful trader makes. At BOWS I can take the course over and over again, and have, and they are always making it better and better.

I started In May of 2015, a high school dropout with no knowledge of trading and no more than traders who have been trading for years. Like I said before, I don’t know who Emmet Moore Is but the guy is lost. I had to say something because I promise you, whoever is reading this review, Emmet Moore’s advice is hurting you instead of helping you because the payment for this course is the best money I’ve ever spent in my life, on anything.

As far as putting in work. Trading is a career and as with any career, the individual has to put in the work. Trading doesn’t come easy. You’re not going to take a class and become an all-star overnight. Do you think Muhammad Ali won the title after a 2 month training program? Hell no. Did you land a job in the top ranks of a company with only 2 months of education? NO.

Trading isn’t for everyone just as Baking isn’t for everyone. There’s always people who drop out and there’s always the ones who don’t want to put in the work, this is true in any field. We write journals and record trades to be grading to help us. It is only a burden to those who are lazy, plain and simple.
Real review, real student. I could care less if anyone signs up, but I couldn’t stand reading such a false review on something that has opened up a door of endless possibilities for me.


Stray Dog
Stray Dog (@guest_9577)
4 years ago
Reply to  Ron

The reviews written by Ron and Mike lamay must have been written by the same high school dropout. Ron, Mike has Kunal shown you his brokerage statements? At least you can stay with Kunal for your $2,500. Hey, if you pay a little extra maybe he’ll let you spoon.

dtchurn (@guest_9579)
4 years ago
Reply to  Stray Dog

Exactly. Sounds more like a compatriot or hireling who was a hs dropout who ended up losing whatever capital he had before joining up with this bullshit scam school. Emmett clearly lays out how fake the hustling is. It’s no different than many other sites reviewed here. If they were making 30 to 40k a month, they sure wouldn’t need to push sales of initial 2.5k pos material to keep up their monthly churn.

Ron Artzberger
Ron Artzberger (@guest_32162)
2 years ago
Reply to  dtchurn

I am a highschool dropout. This is the reason you will never find susccess. Your skepticism will hold you back forever

Ron Artzberger
Ron Artzberger (@guest_32161)
2 years ago
Reply to  Stray Dog

No. This review was written by me. Ron Artzberger, a random average guy that took the course, put in the work and came out on top because I didnt give up

Ron Artzberger
Ron Artzberger (@guest_32163)
2 years ago
Reply to  Stray Dog

I dont need his statements. I learned everything from them and now im consistent because i kept trading during my losing periods. Kept pushing, ignored the pain and stayed disciplined, and continued making progress. Have fun living the broke life. The reason most traders dont make it is because they simply…. give up

Stray Dog
Stray Dog (@guest_32170)
2 years ago
Reply to  Ron Artzberger

You may not need Kunal’s statements but for your claims to be taken seriously by the readers of this blog we will need to see your statements.

Mike lamay
Mike lamay (@guest_9482)
4 years ago

I’m a student, kunal is a great trader and his resultan ARE priven All the time. This review is a joke to just get this website more clicks.

Kunal (@guest_4055508)
1 year ago
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