Thanks for reading today’s update of Nonko Trading.
On June 20, 2015 I published a review of Nonko Trading. My allegations were simple and direct, that Nonko Trading was masquerading as a stock broker for underfunded day traders. That Nonko’s day trading platform, also known as Logix had no exchange connectivity, and was little more than a stock trading video game. Nonko Trading was specializing on preying upon the naive and uninformed. Traders desperate to gain 20X leverage on initial deposits were induced into wiring their monies into third world banks with zero transparency, and zero recourse. Once the money was deposited, it simply disappeared beyond a carefully constructed wall of deceit and misappropriation.
My original article exposed the fraud in its entirety. Nonko responded to my article by launching a non stop attack on my website which included nearly nonstop DDOS attacks, as well as multiple attempts at hacking into various back door entries in my website. Unfortunately, they succeeded to some degree and for the past three weeks, my website has been slowly closing down the attacks and securing the website from various vulnerabilities. In total, for the past three weeks, the TradingSchools.Org website has been online only about 35% of the time. To those of you reading this, and were wondering what was happening, you now know the truth. Nonko was spending a great deal of money in an attempt to destroy my website.
The latest news
About 10 days ago, the homepage of Nonko Trading posted a clear headline that Nonko Trading was no longer accepting United States based trading accounts. This was the first warning that something was amiss. A couple of days later, Nonko then began blocking all United States based IP addresses. This was yet another clear sign that they were attempting to build a fire wall and were planning their escape.
As of Monday, July 13, Nonko Trading had officially deleted their various websites from the internet, as well has began scrubbing social media profiles. In addition to the disappearance of the websites and social media, the Nonko Trading main telephone number, the support telephone number, and the fax number are all disconnected. They have simply vanished.
By the afternoon of Monday, July 13 I began to receive a deluge of emails and phone calls from very terrified Nonko account holders. These account holders were attempting to log into the Nonko Logix trading platform, and that they had been denied entry. The platform had simply shut down. Several of the individuals that I spoke with were absolutely livid and wanted to find these guys and kill them. Several were despondent and simply could not believe what was happening. One gentlemen, only 2 days prior had wired into Nonko $5,000 and his money simply disappeared. Many, many others are sitting on account balances of various amounts of simply cannot believe that this happened.
Until the very end
In speaking directly with many of these people, they had actually read my negative review on June 20, and in spite of this damning information, they continued to believe and wired Nonko monies. Why? Because at the very heart of the scam was the affiliate program that Nonko offered to day trading rooms like LiveTraders.net, RealLifeTraders, TradeTechEquities, DayTradingPower, etc. This is just a few. And many of these rooms, I had written highly positive articles. I specifically warned these live trading rooms that Nonko is going to destroy their reputations and that they will be the only ones remaining to point a finger at. None of the victims that got scammed by Nonko were aware that every single time they traded, the trading room was earning a commission. This aligned the interests of the trading rooms with Nonko, they are in collusion. As this case makes its way towards its inevitable criminal prosecution, the trading room operators will be the easiest to find.
How guilty are the trading room operators? Until the very end, they continued to push Nonko. Even after I had warned them of the dire consequences, many told their subscribers that my information was not valid and that Nonko could be trusted. Shame on them. They did not treat their subscribers as an asset, just something to be exploited and used. How could the trading room operators be so callous? Quite simply, they needed to help their subscribers get the needed leverage from smaller accounts. Think about it…the trading room operator could not offer a trading room unless his subscribers could get the needed leverage. Shame on the trading rooms. They knew better. Anything less is willful ignorance. Hopefully, they have learned something.
Nonko Post Mortem
Most of the readers that contact me regarding Nonko tell the same story, that they deposited $2k-$10k and had lost all of the money deposited inside of their trading account. I could not disagree more. You lost nothing. Understand something, none of your trades ever made it onto an exchange. The Logix trading platform was just a video game. You were trading on a simulator the entire time. You lost nothing. Your money is probably sitting in an account someplace, it was never lost. And you should want it back. All of it. Some readers say to me, “no, I lost it fair and square with losing trades”. My reply is no, you did not lose it fair and square, you were being scammed from day one. You were trading on a simulator the entire time. It was nothing more than a video game, like Xbox or Nintendo.
Overwhelmingly, when speaking with the victims, I hear in their voices how embarrassed and ashamed they feel for being so naive. All of the flags of fraud were so clearly flying and signalling a clear warning of fraud. But they simply could not overcome their own greed, they could not acknowledge what was so obvious from the beginning. Lets once again take a quick look at the obvious red flags:
- Nonko Trading had no listed ownership, nor would anyone admit to owning the company.
- No company address, or country of origin.
- No phone number.
- Refused to disclose any broker dealer relationship.
- Would accept money from anyone, in any form, with no ID.
- Logix Trading Platform had no stock exchange connectivity.
- Parked orders never appeared on Level 2 order book.
- Filled orders never appeared on TOS.
- Customers were required to fund account by depositing into 3rd world banks known for money laundering.
- Nonko was blatantly violating dozens of US criminal statutes regarding money laundering.
- Nonko was acting as an unregistered broker dealer soliciting and accepting US customer funds.
- Nonko created an illegal sub broker hierarchy that employed trading rooms to market and distribute the scheme. This is a clear RICO violation opening all parties to criminal prosecution.
- Nonko had already been caught at a prior time of issuing simulated trading accounts while at DAS.
Nonko’s Worst Nightmare
What does Nonko’s worst nightmare look like? Very simply, if current or past Nonko customers begin filling in the form below. The big problem with financial fraud is how all of the victims are spread out so thinly, over periods of time, different jurisdictions, with varying degrees of complaint. If Nonko customers come forward and begin completing this form below…then all of this information goes directly to the SEC and the FBI, grouped and organized. Having everyone together, filing a single complaint at the same time, creates a situation that the authorities simply cannot deny.
Can Nonko Escape?
No. From my prior investigation, the only party that I do not have the exact location is Naris Chamroonrat. Probably hiding somewhere in Thailand. However, I have the home addresses of his mother and his sister, living in the United States. No, I will not be publishing this information, as they have done nothing wrong. However, law enforcement will certainly appreciate knowing how to find his immediate family. Also of particular interest is that Naris is a US citizen, so tracking him down and expediting him for criminal prosecution should be relatively easy.
Well that’s it for today. Sorry this was such a negative follow up on the original review. Normally, since Nonko has simply disappeared then whom would care about a follow up? However, I have a different perspective on this…lets put focus on the scammers and force them into the light. The more we expose these scams, the less likely in the future we all will be taken advantage of.
Once again, don’t forget to leave your comments below. Even the haters will find that their voices are heard.
https://www.sec.gov/news/pressrelease/2016-273.html
Emmett I just opened a trading account with Suretrader today which I have not funded. Few hours later I find this horrid news from Guy Gentile and the SEC litigation. Would you recommend it’s best to close my Suretrader account or would it be safe to trade on this platform despite the Gentile accusations?
Guy Gentile was arrested on Friday afternoon. Will be updating shortly. He has since scrubbed his name from Sure Trader and taken down the Swiss America Securities website. He has put everything in Karen’s name, including the house in New York. Guy is potentially going to prison for a very, very long time. This is a very serious offense that he is facing.
And to top things off, SureTrader is not registered with Finra. This is a very serious situation.
HOLY SHIT!
I got alot of friends using suretrader are the accounts there in trouble?
Olyshiz. Was the stock clearing service for suretrader accounts also an unregistered entity in the bahamas? Hope it doesn’t end up another pfgbest for the account holders. Up to last friday they were still recommending 1k accounts with the “1k to 8k” challenge on Warrior Trading!
“(new member)
im down to $1k from $4k acct when i funded..I want to focus on how u turned ur 1k into 8100..do u suggest i buy with all my buying power like you did, or just take very small size like 500 shares?
• (shill)
( ) start small. you don’t have a lot of capital and he knows what he is doing to aim big
”
http://ticker.tv/daytradewarrior/56f99560f72261993386de27
Don’t fund it until the dust settles and you know what’s happening with Unsuretrader.
Speaking of suretrader is this
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2016/lr23496.htm
same guy as owner of suretrader?
OMG, I cannot believe this! Guy Gentile did this? Wow, I am truly shocked. And the FBI is involved. Its civil and criminal. He is looking at prison time. Idiot. What a great story this is going to be. Thanks for sending this over.
Ugh, this guy is the founder and ceo of suretrader and speedtrader? It all connects. Sykes, to Bond, to Ross http://www.timothysykes.com/2012/01/10-reasons-why-suretrader-is-the-new-best-broker-for-short-selling-penny-stocks-video/
Most everyday in the warrior chat room they talk about using suretrader to beat the pattern day rule in the bahamas.
Sometimes truth is crazier than fiction. This is one of those times. Is anything sacred in this business? Going to make a call to the FBI tomorrow, they probably wont tell me anything, but I am going to do my best to get something. This is a pretty big story.
Sam looks like Timmy boy has removed any connection to that, when you click on the hypelink this is what you get below.
This is somewhat embarrassing, isn’t it?
It seems we can’t find what you’re looking for. Perhaps searching can help.
This could be giant snollball coming down the mountain.
Going to really break this story down to the core. How everyone operated, the actors, the actions, the whole enchilada. What a great story. Glad you sent this over.
I have been following you Emmett for long time and cannot thank you enough for what you do. When I first saw that report I could not believe it , struck me like NO WAY I read that name on tradingschools.org on the NONKO fiascal can it be the same person so I had to share it with you since you are the master at finding the truth.
Emmett,
Is Nonko trying to reinvent themselves? This came in my spam folder this morning. Since they are promoting Logix…
http://tradersimulator.com/
Looks like they are. This actually looks like a pretty good idea. But of course, when people transition to live, then the trades need to be routed to an actual exchange. Acting as the counter party to the customer accounts created the conflict.
Been meaning too! Hopefully they are playing fair. And none of the old simulator games.
Are these guys open again????
http://elitetradershub.com
Logix Platform, 20:1 leverage, open a few months, registered on Godaddy since October by domainsbyproxy.com which hides all their information (why hide?), all looks the same. I smell a RAT, you know who…… 🙂
Thanks for a great website. The work you’ve put into everything here is impressive and commendable.
As for Nonko, you may want to update this list now:
https://www.tradingschools.org/proprietary-trading-firms-2015/
And thanks again for all this wonderful work you’re doing.
Wow – just wow! Sorry to hear this Steven, I hope the authorities catch up with these guys pretty soon.
I was considering G6 and using the Logix platform.. Back to the drawing board for me.
To: G6, Logix, Nonko and all the other companies run by Naris Chamroonrat, Ran Armon Yaniv Avnon,
So, you think by giving Emmett an account that does not begin with TRN it clears your name? lol…
To start with, I would like to address your statement to Emmett “To tell the truth about Logix” I think I may be able to shed some light on this and the real truth, let me explain.
I opened a trading account with Nonko via the G6 website in 2013, here Yaniv would solicit people via G6 to Nonko but then just reply via Nonko. My account began with TRVN which has now been exposed by DAS trader as a demo account, a video game if you will, but was told this was a live account by both G6 and Nonko, we all thought we were trading with our own money.
In September 2014, unbeknown to me we were told that our trading software was no longer DAS and now LOGIX and we were to download the new software and begin trading. The LOGIX platform was full of bugs, orders were being taken but no confirmation was seen on the screen, I was effectively putting orders in and they were live but I was unaware. I mentioned this to Ran in the G6 chatroom, he had no advice to give, 30 mins went by and I put in another order to trade another stock, same as before no live order showed. I posted this again in the chat room and another room member advised me to re-login, and there were my trades with no stops in place with treble the size and NOW in the red!
I asked Ran what I should do, he replied close out the trades, I did so and was expecting a full refund due to the Logix software error, there were so many complaints going on that G6 had to open a separate LOGIX troubleshooting room to cope with the influx of complaints.
I waited over the weekend for my monies to be returned to me but this did not happen, Ran asked me to send Nonko (him) an email stating my complaint, which I did. The reply that I got was that they blamed me for the error but would return the funds of my TRZN account and the losses if I were to close down the account and forced me to sign an NDA agreement stating that if I ever mentioned this in a chat room or online they would sue me for $20,0000 yes $20k!
I had the NDA checked over by a UK lawyer who laughed and said it does not mean a thing, I signed it 3 weeks later and received the remaining balance. At this time I contacted the SEC (the representative exclaimed ‘oh the nonko scam’, and told me about the video game account) and their equivalent in the UK, Canada, Hong Kong and Caribbean (Belize). I also contacted the forum host ‘click meeting’ as they were grooming/ soliciting members of the public, using their software.. I reported the issue to the UK police ‘Action Fraud’ department and received a crime number.
I am now seeking reimbursement for ALL of my money I have deposited into my TRZN account AS THIS ACCOUNT WAS A DEMO ACCOUNT! Through Nonko and G6 and will not stop until I get this back.
Ran I understand that you had a 40 min telephone conversation with Emmett and said ”if Nonko is so bad, then where are the customer complaints?”
Well I’m here now! If you threaten people with a $20,000 law suit stating if they mention this scam in public you will sue them, how many other people did you sent this NDA to? I would love to know and so would the FBI as this is blackmail.
I have for the past year been collated evidence that G6 and Nonko are one of the same, and even have proof that Logix was set up by Mr ChamroonRAT (extra emphasis on the rat). G6 is continuing to swindle and dodge the authorities – do yourself a favour and dodge these thieves. Others affected like me, should come forward, so as a group we can make sure they are bought to justice.
Here is a copy of the NDA they threatened me with…
NON-DISCLOSURE AND ANTI DEFAMATION CLAUSE
BETWEEN: ME
AND: [Nonko Group LLC ] (the “Second Party”), a company organized and existing under the laws of the [Nevis], with its head office located at: [Room 1702, Sino Centre, 582-592 Nathan Rd.,Mongkok, Kowloon,]
Me agrees not to attack/criticize [Nonko Group LLC] and any of its employee, associate or partner publicly (on public forums, blogs, social networks etc) at any time during or subsequent to contract period. Similarly client agrees not to seek for seo advice on seo forums, blogs, community groups or any social media in a way which brings bad name to the company or any of its employee, associate or partner. In case of breach of this clause, client agrees to pay US$ 20,000 to [Nonko Trading] as damages.
CONFIDENTIALITY
Me shall not disclose any of the Confidential Information in any manner whatsoever of this Agreement, and shall hold and maintain the Confidential Information in strictest confidence. Recipient hereby agrees to indemnify Nonko Group LLC against any and all losses, damages, claims, expenses, and attorneys’ fees incurred or suffered by Nonko Group LLC as a result of a breach of this Agreement by Me or My Representatives.
NON-DISCLOSURE
Me will not at any time, whether during or after his this agreement is executed, disclose to any person or use any Confidential Information, or permit any person to examine and/or make copies of any documents/emails/chats which contain or are derived from Confidential Information, whether prepared by Me or otherwise coming into the possession or control.
IRREPARABLE HARM
Me understands acknowledges that any disclosure or misappropriation of any of the Confidential Information in violation of this Agreement will cause Nonko Group LLC irreparable harm and agrees to pay Nonko Group LLC in the amount of $20,000 from said disclosure.
ENTIRE AGREEMENT
This Agreement expresses the full and complete understanding of the parties with respect to the subject matter hereof and supersedes all prior or contemporaneous proposals, agreements, representations and understandings, whether written or oral, with respect to the subject matter.
FIRST PARTY SECOND PARTY
Authorized Signature Authorized Signature
Print Name and Title Print Name and Title
Im sure you will all agree this was very upsetting for me and my pregnant wife when we received this, and there was no other way to get back our life savings, except to bow to their demands and become a blackmail victim as well as being scammed with a demo account.
So Nonko/G6 I hope that you carry out your above threat and we can have our day In a court of Law.
I look forward to your reply…
Steven
Steven,
I am also a victim of Nonko fraud and lost money . How can I join you
Emmett,
Looking forward to hear from you, also sent you an email regarding this, would love to hear about your experience trading on Logix, its been 2 weeks now.
G6 Trading
I seriously would like to know how setting up one legit account changes anything.
Hi Emmet,
We Sent you an email last week with a funded account of Logix and more info
as promised in our previous comment.
We are looking forward to your reply and review.
If you didn’t receive it please contact us
How does providing Emmett with a funded account prove that you have connections to an exchange? Emmett trades and hopefully he makes a profit. You give him his money. What have you proven? Absolutely nothing. Where is the official documentation proving that you are connected to an exchange?
If the trades show up on level two, then I have no gripes. They are valid trades. I would just like to create some sort of protocol where future Logix traders can verify that their trades are actively hitting an exchange vs a simulator.
Sorry, am a little busy and will get to it this week.
Hi,
I’ll just put it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyveUHwEh1w
My only comment is that so many things Emmet wrote are simply not truth!
Emmet, I challenge you to trade on Logix with 100 USD of G6 funds, what ever you make you can withdraw, if you lose we ask you for one thing and one thing only:
To tell the truth about Logix..
Waiting for your email, our email is: info.at.g6trading.com
G6 Trading
Hey, I would love to confirm that Logix has exchange connectivity. If you guys are willing to make the commitment to positive change, and be transparent, then I am more than willing to work with you. Put that past behind us and move forward.
Your comment doesn’t make sense. If he executes the trade on logix, and it shows up on the T & S of TOS, then that shows it is hitting the exchange and is being traded. There is no paper trading exchange that all paper trading accounts are linked to lol…
Big spenders … $100, US dollars no less. Phew let me sit down and enjoy the fantasy of having a whole 100 dollars to play the market with. And exactly how does allowing Emmett to withdraw his winnings prove that you have exchange connectivity? If you actually do have a real connection to a real exchange you could prove it without this stupid $100 deal. It’s a mad as Dave’s trading contest with Emmett. How that had anything to do with the accuracy of Emmett’s reviews I still can’t figure out.
Hey Stray Dog,
The guys at Nonko and myself have certainly had a very contentious relationship. I hit them hard, they hit me hard. However, its time to move forward. If they now have true exchange inter connectivity and all of the trades, for all of the traders are now being processed correctly (no more issuing simulated accounts to losing traders) then there is no longer any reason to continue battling in an endless war.
Sure, they have a reputation to repair. But I would be more than willing to extend an olive branch. Their misdeeds are a pittance compared to mine.
You mean what ever he makes he can withdraw it also? Wow what a concept. I thought I was just donating money to you – but now I can withdraw it also – man this is great!!!
Did Srinivas get he’s $25 k you owe him?
How does losing $100 make the reviews different? Flipping a coin doesn’t change a thing. Also, in the video the speaker says it’s a review of Logix but doesn’t disclose that G6 is Logix. WTF?
G6’s Facebook also has recent Likes from the two other guys from Logix.
But really, how does winning or losing $100 actually affect reality?
Another site pushing Nonko
http://www.ibertraders.com/
Hi,
Does anyone knows if this site is related to the whole nonko scam?
http://www.logixtrader.com
Logix Trader is NONKO. The Logix trading platform has no exchange connectivity. It is a stock trading simulator. A video game, and nothing more. The scam is that you deposit your money, and then they hope that you lose with your trading. If you lose, then they keep your money. If you win, then they refuse to pay out the winnings. Simple as that.
OK thanks. I guess changing names s part of their strategy 🙁
Or,
Check out this video, no scam and no nothing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyveUHwEh1w
Probably this comment will not be published like the last one.. but i’ll try anyway
im a trader with G6 Trading for the past 3 years..
I think Emmet is way off with everything, the fact that people are deciding to hear one side it’s pure internet frade and shaming without consider what is the truth and what isn’t
@Antiguatech the video above shows exactly what we (people who trader with G6) no for months: “That everything is legit”, im a CTO in and a computer enginner i can say for sure that when order show in the Time and Sale like they do in that video and in my account it means they are legit and going through the market, no CFD platform will ever have that, Only a legit platform will do!!
So keep crying or telling yourself that Mr. Emmet is the pure and right , but we know the real truth
Good luck to all of you
Tami,
I would never hide or sensor your comments. Period. This is an open forum.
Furthermore, I have never said a negative thing about G6 Trading. Ran owns G6 Trading, and I have had plenty of opportunity to express this. My only problem has been with Ran’s involvement with Nonko/Logix. That platform is a simulator. Period. End of discussion.
I would be more than willing to post an honest review regarding G6. And this would be based upon the merits of the service, and nothing more. In fact, I already have several days of video of the G6 trading room, I just never got around to writing the review because of all of the Nonko problems. But I can tell you with all sincerity that from the video that I have on G6, that I can find nothing wrong. In fact, everything looks great.
Emmett
@Tami, “Probably this comment will not be published like the last one.. but i’ll try anyway” You’re a CTO and a computer engineer and you don’t know how to post a comment on a public forum! Your employer is in big trouble.
Hello guys, as of yesterday G6Trading is still advertising and reviewing the Logix platform scam on YouTube.
See below:
Published on Sep 23, 2015
G6Trading 2 hrs ·
Logix Platform Quick Review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UktAKHNeS1w
I think you need to update your site. You should reflect the fact that DTP was pushing ppl toward nonko, there for he is a scammer as well… If you wish to keep your rep as an honest reviewer then keep it real. On a side note it would be good if you could also archive your older reviews, so they are outta the way. One minute I was reading how you couldn’t find any dirt on nonko and that Chris from DTP was using them so they must be legit, then next post your going on about how Nonko are now a complete scam, Just saying, would be nice to see your site organised a bit better.
Hi James, Thanks for the comments. Truth be told, writing these reviews has been a real learning experience. When I first started writing, I got fooled a few times, but have since wizened up.
The whole Nonko review was really an evolution of information. I put a ton of time and energy into uncovering the fraud. Remarkably, they are still pushing the fraud through several trading rooms. Am collecting information and will be updating after I reach critical mass. Really, these Nonko guys are like cockroaches, I can kill the nest but a few escape and they reappear under a new name and slightly altered trading platform.
HI there,
I was approached be Stoxpit.com to advertise on one of my sites
and during the email conversations with different people being Cc in on the emails the nonko email was Cc in and I thought that was weird so I started my research and found your adventure… here are the emails in the conversations
Yaniv A. support@nonkotrading.com ( i emailed this email and it doesn’t work – they must of Cc this in by accident)
Josh Burley josh@stoxpit.com
Ray Chaplin <info@stoxpit.com
Ben Green <support@stoxpit.com
So I think this means that stoxpit.com is connected to nonko
thought I best let you know, so you can check it further.
Regards Pete
Yes, am familiar with Stoxpit. These guys are running a bucket shop, taking the other side of newbies trades, purely on simulated platform. Ugly stuff. There are still a few affiliates pushing Nonko, Logix, Stoxpit, etc. I feel like I have killed the nest of cockroaches, but these little buggers cannot be completely eradicated. Am waiting and building a new list of vendors pushing their BS, then will publish yet another piece of these guys. Its a cat and mouse game. I know its really hard for you to turn down advertising dollars. Believe me, its really really hard for me to say no to money. But these guys are going to cause longer term problems that will damage your credibility.
HI there,
I was approached be Stoxpit.com to advertise on one of my sites
and during the email conversations with different people being Cc in on the emails the nonko email was Cc in and I thought that was weird so I started my research and found your adventure… here are the emails in the conversations
Yaniv A. support@nonkotrading.com ( i emailed this email and it doesn’t work – they must of Cc this in by accident)
Josh Burley josh@stoxpit.com
Ray Chaplin <info@stoxpit.com
Ben Green <support@stoxpit.com
So I think this means that stoxpit.com is connected to nonko
thought I best let you know, so you can check it further.
Regards Pete
Thanks for the heads- up.
And I don't need ad dollars from people like that, in fact I don't like adds on any of my sites. I would like to place your story on my forum if that's ok with you, just let me know what text I can use. the site is cfdtradingforum.com where stoxpit wanted to advertise :-}
Cheers pete
This whole scam started way back when I was a mojodaytrading.com room member. Mike Rich from FL. got me as well as many of my friends to put money with them. He would brag that he met the Nonko people in person, and that the money was safe because he used them. One day I asked him why my orders don’t seem to go through sometimes and why I had an account that said (Training) when I logged in with the Das Trader Pro application on my iphone and he told me that there was nothing to worry about, I wasn’t trading a demo etc. When I asked him why my sales never showed up on level 2 (this was in December 2013) he told me its normal because they use dark pools. So, the Nonko scam had been going on since sometime in 2013 and Mike Rich was aware and tried to get away with it until they got caught. Around the time in fall of 2014 when Das released their statement about the “TRN” accounte Mike got scared and took them off his website as he knew he was in deep trouble. The purpose of this post is to make sure he doesn’t get forgotten when it comes to pointing the finger at people about this scam. I once asked Nonko who their biggest affiliate was and they told me Mojo Mike Rich with over 3 million shares traded a month and 50 active traders. (I got the info by being sneaky and pretending to be a big fish affiliate wanting to sign up people to Nonko. I was curious to collect this info because I knew this whole thing would blownup one day at and wanted to be anle to help some way). If you were duped by Mike Rich a founding father and largest player in this scam please stand up and voice yourself to the SEC as they are collecting info to build a case to prosecute.
This whole scam started way back when I was a mojodaytrading.com room member. Mike Rich from FL. got me as well as many of my friends to put money with them. He would brag that he met the Nonko people in person, and that the money was safe because he used them. One day I asked him why my orders don’t seem to go through sometimes and why I had an account that said (Training) when I logged in with the Das Trader Pro application on my iphone and he told me that there was nothing to worry about, I wasn’t trading a demo etc. When I asked him why my sales never showed up on level 2 (this was in December 2013) he told me its normal because they use dark pools. So, the Nonko scam had been going on since sometime in 2013 and Mike Rich was aware and tried to get away with it until they got caught. Around the time in fall of 2014 when Das released their statement about the “TRN” accounte Mike got scared and took them off his website as he knew he was in deep trouble. The purpose of this post is to make sure he doesn’t get forgotten when it comes to pointing the finger at people about this scam. I once asked Nonko who their biggest affiliate was and they told me Mojo Mike Rich with over 3 million shares traded a month and 50 active traders. (I got the info by being sneaky and pretending to be a big fish affiliate wanting to sign up people to Nonko. I was curious to collect this info because I knew this whole thing would blownup one day at and wanted to be anle to help some way). If you were duped by Mike Rich the foinding father and largest player in this scam please stand up and voice yourself to the SEC as they are collecting info to build a case to prosecute.
Hi Emmett,
I have just got my money back from Nonko yesterday. I could give you screenshot and details if you email me on how I did that.
Background story :
I could not thank you enough for all the investigations/and researches done on Nonko. I was one of Nonko’s customer and funded $2k to them earlier January this year. I’ve had my doubts on Nonko but I was also subscribing to AJ Trader’s AwesomeCalls room at that time and one of his moderators/admin named Sergio recommended Nonko. 20:1 leverage is something a noob underfunded fresh trader like me would love to have so I had to give it a go. After day trading for about 3 months I had a net ‘lost’ of $300. Then I decided to stop daytrading as I am on my final semester of uni and had to focus. So I asked Nonko to freeze my account so that they could stop charging me $100 platform fee per month until I’ve decided to start trading again. So I’ve been away from the trading world (with my money still with them) for about four months and decided to get back into daytrading in August. I sent an email to Nonko to unfreeze my account but the email’s been returned back to me saying that it’s failed to sent and the email adress does not exist. I went to theor website and was shocked that it’s all gone! Together with their twitter, linked in,stocktwit accounts. Then I started googling and found your website and only realised I’ve been scammed. So I started thinking of ways to get my money back.
How did I get my money back?
I knew from reading comments and posts online that http://www.g6trading.com/ is owned by the same guy who owns Nonko. So basically I set up a new email address and request a new inquiry on their website pretending that I want to set up a new account. A minute later, a guy named Samuel Broye from http://www.tradetechtrading.com/ contacted me and responded to my inquiry about setting up a new account with them. I replied his email saying that I am looking for G6T account and not with TradeTech. He replied saying that TradeTech has taken over G6T accounts. In order to confirm this I asked him to open an account for me anyway and send me the wire details so that I can transfer them my money to start. They asked me to send the money via Paypal (red alert no 1!) for quick money transfer so that I could open the account quicker. I replied that I do not have paypal account and would like to wire the money instead. Guess what? One of his technical team guys, Jackie sent me the same wire instruction as the one I’ve got from Nonko! Even the same banks and beneficiary name and note. It even stated to state there ‘To Further Credit to NKO Holdings CO LTD” This way I knew TradeTech is basically Nonko in disguise. It’s so obvious.
Further from that realisation, I gave TradeTech a call at +44 780 464 8277 and using my real name and details this time I asked about my Nonko account. The guy who answered the call is Sam himself and he said that Nonko accounts has been transfered to TradeTech because Nonko had some ‘mismanagement issues’. I said that I wasn’t informed about this and demanded that new account is created for me under Tradetech so that I could start trading again. I said that I would wire in more money to he account and can’t wait to start trading again. This is to give him an incentive to open the account for me. I then emailed him on 22 August giving me my previous Nonko account details so that he could set me up a new TradeTech account. On 26th august they emailed me with the new TradeTech account credentials and they have $1730 in the account ready for me (transfered from my Nonko balance). I then requested for wire instruction details so that I could wire them in some money. (well to still give them incentives) I also said that before that I have to wire out the money to my UK bank account first before I could Wire them in money from my Malaysian bank account so that I can ‘sort my banks out’. I sent them Wire Out request and requested $1650 (they said wire out fee cost $75) on 31st August. They said they have processed my wire out request and it should take 3-10 days. Today, on 4th September I checked my UK bank account and the money has been credited guess from whom? NKO Holdings.
I am not really sure how they actually fell for it but I guess TradeTech had no choice but to wire out my money. I am relieved nontheless! Although I know should actually get $2000 but there is no way I could play that out without accusing them as a scammer which in turn making them pissed off and avoided me and in the end not getting anything at all. I’d rather get back my $1650 and regard my $350 loss to scam as an education fee for myself to not being so gullible next time and do thorough research before wiring in any money to any firm no matter how ‘professional’ they look. Other people lost more money than me and I am grateful to get my money back.
So what you can do as a Nonko Victim is to contact http://www.tradetechtrading.com/ via email/call. Do not accuse them as a scammer at first, play it cool and say that you’ve known somewhere that your Nonko account has been transferred to Tradetech and request for your new TradeTech account using your previous Nonko details. Then once you’ve got your TT account set up with your money balance shown. WIRE OUT that money immediately without a doubt and NEVER LOOK BACK!
As I mentioned earlier in my post I got my money as well from Nonko.
Ben, which one of the companies you’re using now?
I had traded with Nonko for awhile and always felt uneasy with them for a lot of the reasons already posted so on Thursdays Aug 20th I sent a request to withdraw all funds next day I get a email from David at Tradetech Trading saying a few months ago my account was transferred to them (which I knew nothing about) and I need to send a request via Paypal to get my money which I did on Aug 21st and received my money Aug 23th via Paypal from Ran Armon. I think they are unstable at best and I am NOT saying I trust them but they did send my money when I asked for it. Also what nobody seems to be saying is that SOME of the Nonko at DAS were fake some were real. When I first opened my Nonko account I was on a fake DAS acc but after complaining constantly about bad & slow order fills they moved me to a real account, I got that info strait from Karen at DAS. Like I said I don’t trust them and am happy to have my account closed and my funds returned, its a strange deal and seems there is a LOT of wrong info floating around about them
What form did you submitted Nonko victim?
Now that we have submitted the form, what’s the next step we can do to try to get our money back? If it’s even possible.
I’ve traded with Logix for a few months before fleeing as that is one piece of garbage platform. The amount of issues with it is unbelievable and anyone who traded with a legitimate platform before knows that. If you complain about it to the owner, he will tell you fairy tales and straight up lies. I got sick of it and got my Series 56 and have my money on US soil safe and legal. They are scum bags but the real travesty is that there are room moderators who promote these guys and their sad excuse of a platform just because they want to take the easy way out.
This is a G6 Trading YouTube info video, it shows Ran Armon as founder,, same guy from the Nonko scam! Apparently they still haven’t deleted some of their old stuff.
https://youtu.be/5aq1GV3Q3SA
Dont consider them, they were connected with Nonko. They also were a trading room affiliate of Nonko. I dont know who they advertise now, with Nonko’s fall.
there are many prop firms that use the LOGIX platform.
i can’t beleave there all bad?
i have not found any negative reviews about tradetechtrading???
thanks
Hey guys, I wanted to post this outrageous video about Michael Rich aka Protrader Mike from mojodaytrading.com
I sure hope you guys took my warning last time about him and his unlegit room. Here’s proof that he is CRAZY! NUTSO!
– Watch the news video about him attacking local golfers at his club with a putter:
http://www.wpbf.com/news/local-golfer-attacks-others-in-foursome-breaks-putter-into-spear/27858620
So in summary, he was randomly paired with other guys in a foursome. From the beginning he was hostile with everyone and didn’t shake hands, and refused to talk. He then exploded with anger over something silly on the course and attacked everyone with his putter. Got sent to jail. Was bailed out. Charges for battery still pending. Banned from the golf course for life. I especially like the last part where the employee of the golf club said “this man was obviously crazy”.
There you have it. You asked me to review Mojo because I kept complaining Emmett wouldn’t do it. Well there’s no need to review him now, he is straight jacket crazy. Don’t trust your money with him.
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http://www.tradetechtrading.com/ anybody ever use this prop firm?
if so what do you think about them???
thanks bob
DTP got me involved with NONKO aswell. I think I have some screensots of him using TRN. account. Dude was fishy always talked about IB, but never shared a screen of it.
very true. and this makes me very angry too.
He knowingly misled all new traders who joined him.
never expected this from him. I got trapped with nonko due to him too
But, the real problem is that I was going to trade USA equities without $25 k and Nonko was a choice because it charged only $100 pm inclusive of everything while any other prop firms will total to $200 per month.
Nonko was a fantastic choice, but never expected that they will scam and fraud like this with me.
Badly discourages me now to trade us equities. Also, the SEC forced small traders like me to hunt for such brokers with their silliest rules.
Hi all,
I think I got lucky by reading this forum and got so scared so I contacted nonko and withdraw my $$$ out of there.
Looking for a new place… cy got my attention but I read somewhere else that the $5000 is not refundable!
Any of you out there is trading with them? What should I be aware of when dealing with cy?
cy is great to use. i have a few friends that use them. the 5k is no refundable.
To clear up some things, I have traded with CY Group. The 5k is a membership. (This is the way one of the owners, a lawyer set it up to make sure they are in compliance with all rules). The membership IS refundable less $250 admin fee if you decide to leave. You get 20:1 leverage, $500 max loss per day, 2000 max share size per stock. Their main trading platform is Sterling Trader. You can withdraw money very easily via their website and it is received quickly. All my dealings with them were professional with no complaints. They care about their traders thus the loss limits. Steve is pretty busy, they all are because they trade as well, so sometimes they might come across a bit flaky but from my experience they are not! You will also get access to their trade room for free, it’s okay but I only used it when I had a question or problem and they were on it immediately. I left because I went back to trading my ToS account not because of any problems with them.
You are telling about earlier contracts when $5k was refundable. Now, there is no more earlier contracts. Now, $5k is not refundable and you are allowed to trade with them until you loose upto $4k.
Do your research after emailing or asking them, then write in forum. The info you are presenting is not factually correct as per today. thanks
My request to you is ” DO YOUR research properly and talk to Steve now at this moment and then post correct information in forum.
I have contacted Steve now and not 1 year ago and I am writing as of today . thanks
My apologies then, did not realize they had changed policy. It appears that you have it all figured out, thanks.
liquid tree group prop firm has closed up shop lol
Lol rip to another scam squad
Wow, that was surprising. They just folded up.
For those of you looking for a low cost legitimate prop firm go for
http://datechtrade.com/stock-market/
they are based in isreal but they have physical location and you can contact them for more details
@traders Do you know what is the minimum deposit they ask for too trade with them?
Dont know the minimum deposit but they are flexible.
However, if you want a legit prop firm and dont mind paying US 200 per month fees – go for Global market trading based in canada.
they will give $1m with 2k deposit with 80-20
They are a good firm too
global trade? cant find that site, do you know of others? talked too sfg and they are no good, also datech dosent answer emails…
Datechtrade looks good, have you used them? Do you know more about them? I cant find any good information on them online
No, I didnt use them, but considering them now, since NONKO fraud.
I am thinking of calling them. their software fees is cheapest. for traders, its important to keep the overheads low, otherwise it hurts.
Global trade in canada is also good, but higher platform and data fees. But they provide sterling trader pro
Have a look at SFG trading too, based in canada.
Canadian firms are easy to use, as they dont ask for silly series exams
http://www.globalmarkettrading.ca/page-0
globaltraders dosent accept u.s clients.. do you know of any other firms @traders? thank you for replying
traderbonanza.com/
This one I found online, but they dont have the site working now
Difficult if you are US based and dont have Series exams. MOst of them want the exam passed.
If you pass you can go for remote day traders. Its a good firm.
Its always risky to open prop accounts with smaller prop firms.
Hello Emmitt. Thank you for your dedication to setting these scammers apart to the real Pro’s. In your review I saw that you had a variety of sites LiveTraders.net, RealLifeTraders, TradeTechEquities, DayTradingPower
Is that realLife Traders the one owned by Jeremy Newsome? Why would you post a positive review of him after learning that he was associated with such criminals? I just boggles the mind that their are so many cold hearted assholes out there that rather scam decent people just for the mighty dollar. Thanks for all you do Emmitt. It is much appreciated by me.
@emmet wil you do a review on cy group?
Second that plse do
@emmet you may want to remove nonko from this list lol https://www.tradingschools.org/proprietary-trading-firms-2015/
Is there any way for people who deposited funds with nonko to get their funds back?
this is the ques I also have in my mind
Just thinking if we can recover our losses from Nonko or not. Or will they remain free for ever and again scam by becoming another company.
What is the SEC doing. They dont catch such scammers?
And Nonko owns Logix? Websites looked extremely identical
Logix is promoted by others like livetraders.net, g6, tradetech, still. They seem to be different. Logix is a platform and its seperate
Logix is not a platform. It is a video game!! lol Who wants to play
Nonko transferred all accounts to mytradepod as of now. dont know if this firm is also connected with nonko or not?
So does that mean nonko account holders can redraw what is in their account from mytradepod.
what about g6trading.com they use the LOGIX trading platform?
are they legit?
G6trading is one of the owners of Nonko. Same guy.
how is the g6trading.com website site still up,if
the nonko website is down, and you said the same people own both?
ibertraders.com,and livetraders.net also promote the Logix platform?
not sure who to trust?
thanks
same guys!!!!!!!
Emmett, how many complaints have you received so far ?
Many. I cant say too much at this time because the Feds are now involved.
Hey Emmett and company, I’ve been reading your reviews and comments for close to 3 months now, but haven’t posted much. Today I wanted to play the devil’s advocate for Chris and other room operators. First of all, I agree that this Nonko order was a complete shame and that room operators that were promoting them should take some of the blame. In recent months I’ve been in contact with 2 room operators and have been asking them questions about Nonko because I wanted to join. Also, full disclosure: I am a member of DTP live chat currently, but I will remain unbiased in these following comments.
In contacting these room operators, both of them actually warned me about signing up with prop firms, and one of them particularly pointed me to the article by DAS and Emmett. Said “Sign up at your own risk, but it’s better if you have 25K to day trade with a registered retail broker, period.” Anyhow, it was clear to me that both of these guys were saying stay away, do my homework. But, I couldn’t understand why they were both still advertising Nonko on their site, so I asked. The sense I got from them was they were trapped in something they no longer wanted to be involved in.
Anyways, enough babbling, the most important thing I want to mention is that I think you are being unfair with Chris’s room Emmett and others saying that “Chris needed Nonko so that the subscribers could trade.” – this is false. I got the sense that there were very few of his room members that were Nonko traders. In fact most his members are constantly talking about Interactive Brokers, and Chris is always recommending them. He never once spoke a single word about Nonko in his room or anywhere. In my opinion there is no big link between Nonko and Chris’ room except that he was at one point advertising them on his website. I think even he was one of the first room operators to take down the Nonko advertising from his website.
Now Emmett, although your articles on Nonko are awesome, didn’t you fear at one point writing about them that if they shut down because of you they would keep everyone’s capital? One of the room operators I spoke to had this fear and blatantly told me about it. He said he was strategically moving traders away from Nonko one by one and not trying to raise any red flags that would make Nonko keep everyone’s money.
Also you are being unfair saying, Chris’s performance was dropping and that was linked to Nonko somehow. Again, not many Nonko users were in his chat, and his performance is still struggling even after he is no longer involved with Nonko/Logix and company.
I’ve been in many rooms over time, and I strongly feel that Chris has a good thing going. Only been a member for about 4 months though, and his performance (still positive) but declining. Good things are happening over at his room right now, you could tell despite the market not being in favor of his trading style that he is making adjustments that show gleams of hope.
I’m not saying Chris has a perfect room or anything, there are 2 things that I would like him to change and I have brought up. 1. He has some serious professionals in his room that share trade alerts from time to time, but Chris doesn’t seem able to get them to help moderate and make those good calls official. You kind of have to dig through the chat to find this good info. 2. His winning trades are easy to follow, but his losing ones are more difficult. I’m referring to his stops on losing trades. Sometimes he will say put a hard stop on example: GPRO at $51.10 – and then when I put a hard stop there I end up getting stopped out at $51.07 because of slippage and the fact GPRO is a stock that has a bit of a spread between the bid and the ask. When I look at the results he posts, I see that he logs the trade as having stopped out at $51.10. I asked him about it and he agreed to bring it up and clarify in the next team meeting, so we will see.
Anyways, that about sums it up. Don’t be quick to judge the room operators. Before you throw any blame on them maybe contact them and try to ask any questions about things that are bothering you about the arrangement they had with the former Nonko. As a side note, I think the only trade room out there that has a contact phone number, is Chris’ site.
Hi Jose,
Thanks for commenting. First, let me say that I have had private off the record conversations with Chris. Believe me, I was much tougher on him during our private conversations, than what I have written. I look at his room and the Nonko situation as completely separate. However, so many of his subs needed that leverage and Nonko was the only viable option. Hey, this wasnt a cut and dried situation with Nonko. As a matter of fact, my initial write up was very positive towards Nonko. But as I investigated and learned more and more, then I came to the conclusion through the evidence that they were ticking time bomb. It was just a matter of time. I was 100% sure it would of been the regulators that took them down. The had pissed off everyone in the existing infrastructure.
The thing is, if Nonko would of adopted the educational model like Cy, or Maverick, or the new comers like Liquid Tree or Clique, then they could of survived. But they took the most greedy and offensive route possible by acting as a broker dealer from day one. Big mistake. They should of stayed in the safe zone…look at how long Cy and Maverick have been around. A long fucking time. Long enough for the regulators to take notice and decide to leave these guys alone. I am not endorsing any of the educator models currently out there, but I dont want to bash them neither. They serve a market. Better to have traders deal with US based than into the maw of a foreign broker dealer.
Chris will be fine. Regardless if his trading is going through a slump that dude is going to be around for awhile. He will also work a deal with one of the educators which will give his students leverage and the world will keep turning. Same with the rest of the room operators.
There is never any positive benefit to being continuously nice to these trading room operators. Better to let them think something nasty is about to be written if they fuck up.
Emmett I don’t know if you remember but in the comments section of one of your nonko articles you actually said “if I write the truth about nonko many people will lose their money” just trying to help you out as you defend yourself.
Oy vey! “didn’t you fear at one point writing about them that if they shut down because of you they would keep everyone’s capital? One of the room operators I spoke to had this fear and blatantly told me about it. He said he was strategically moving traders away from Nonko one by one and not trying to raise any red flags that would make Nonko keep everyone’s money.” They’re criminals! They weren’t going to ever give back the money, certainly not by allowing traders to strategically move money out of their account one by one. Emmett has possibly saved hundreds of traders from losing their money to this scam.
this reply I couldn’t even read it all it was so disgusting – Chris knows about the underhanded scam and fake accounts NONKO was pulling for a long time. He was and until a few days ago was their biggest cheerleader. He knows darn well that the fake accounts happened and by you tying that to his stock picking performance is nauseating. He is not with them now and his results are so bad I can believe he hasn’t shut down yet – both these day trade and swing trade results are horrendous – my cat can pick stocks better than him – http://daytradingpower.com/dtpresults/
Your example of slippage and Stops is so amateurish – no wonder why your all stuck in a ton of mess. Fools!!
honestly, I have had the same problem lately. no response by email. They used to reply fast. I havent talked to them on the phone in months. I do have friends that use them daily though
Yeah it’s quite worrisome, haven’t spoken to them on the phone been a little turned off if I can’t even get an email.
So your telling me for c.y you are paying for a membership? so you pay 5k too trade and never can see that 5k again? If the 5k you send is able to get get back to you, then you are sending in a deposit, and not paying for no membership, even if they want too call it membership. Again all these firms are shady, since with c.y group your money is not fdic or sipc insured, best too risk 1k than 5k
Think you missed the point, even leveraged 30:1 you are extremely unlikely to be successful trading. And yes it is all a twist on words in a grey area of trading.
JIm that’s the cost to trade their money. think about it If you a re a good trader you pay 5k and you get 100k buying power. At the end of they day you are the only one held accountable for who you pick to trade with. For me I like Sure Trader and I use also TDA for options trading. plain and simple
Try
MGB Trading Inc.
http://www.mgbtrading.com
CY asks for 5k fees and not refundable or payable. You can loose upto 4k and then they say you to go away or deposit more money.
The 5k is refundable. I’ve done business with them and speak from experience.
the only prop firm I know that is legit based on my friends using them is Cy group.
They say orders show up on level 2 and times and sales….. c.y is on the edge, they accept deposits like a broker/dealer which is a no no. Would rather risk 1k with shark, than 5k with c.y
Cy is clear to say its not a deposit It is a “membership” not a deposit. Better talk to them again. Anyone that tries to only trade with 1k trading stocks needs to rethink their plan. For 1k to get 30:1 is sick. that is beyond dumb.
and I am talking about Sharktraders.com that give that kind of leverage with a min, 1k deposit.
Alex is the only way to talk with cy on the phone? I’ve emailed them like 6 times and no response lol. I would agree shark traders looks and sounds no different than nonko but that could be solved very easily by determining wether or not orders go through to anywhere.
I trade with Suretrader.com and can confirm the orders come up in level 2 and they are live and legit and they are they only true leverage game – covered nicley with DAS Trader – they are as solid as can get too
Wow! This is an incredible follow up Emmett. Pat yourself on the back for this!! I opened a Nonko account but in the end after considering your review, i just couldn’t bring myself to take the risk and wire them money. The fact that the daytradingpower guy was promoting them was almost enough form me to send the money. Pretty good scam set up by these guys, nothing more than a giant ponzi scheme. Well done again. I agree you should have a donate button. Cheers
hi, did you find out how or if nevis is related to nonko, used to trade there, seemed legit
I cant say on Nevis. I certainly have never heard anything bad about them. It certainly would not be fair to lump them in with Nonko.
If Nevis is using Logix, then you should be worried! However, if Nevis is using any other platform, then the first thing you would want to do after opening the account is to check to see if your orders are showing up on level 2. You do this by entering a limit order on a thinly traded stock, if the order shows up…then you are good to go.
Also, ask Nevis whom is the clearing agent. Very simple. Anyone that is not willing to admit a clearing agent is hiding something, and you would need to stay away.
What do you think about sharktraders.com they run sterling trader pro but wont say who clearing firm is, they say its there trade secret or business advantage….
That could be true. Give them a shot. Just make sure your orders show up on level 2. If not, pull your money.
Sharktrader.com does not disclose the clearing firm at all i would not trust them. any offshore broker that is not FATCA compliant I would stay away from. Period!!!
Also looking forward to a legitimate prop trading firm. Rip nonko
I’m very disappointed with Cris Grosvenor at daytradingpower.com
He has been pushing Nonko to they end. Everybody who joined his tradingroom in the last 3-4 month would have blown a $5000 nonko account with BP. Seems odd.
I’m looking forward to your review about sharktraders Emmett.
Thanks for your hard work, you should put up a donation button.
I agree – Chris Grosvenor has a lot of questions to answer. He’s a bright bloke who professes to care for his charges in his trade room. Quite how he could lead folk over to Nonkotrading in full knowledge of the grave issues Emmett raised is staggering and grossly disappointing.
Chris needed Nonko so that the subscribers could trade. It was a devils bargain. Deep down, Chris knew the truth, but he just wanted to believe these Nonko guys so badly. The other trading rooms as well. The trading room guys are not stupid, they knew Nonko was fishy, but they didnt know how fishy.
The crazy thing is that these Nonko guys are still sitting on that pile of money because none of the money was ever traded. People were playing a rigged video game.
Anyone whom ever had a prior account, even if they “lost” money trading needs to realize that none of the winning nor the losing trades were valid. There money is still sitting there. I know more about these three guys than I am writing about. The money is there. And its recoverable.
Quite true. I joined DTP for 2 months and lost. DTP is not performing well anymore. DTP promoted Nonko and I sent 5k to them and lost half of it trading. very fishy platform. I am yet to receive the $remaining balance in my account.
You didnt lose any money trading. You were never actually trading. You were playing a video game that contained market data, but no exchange connectivity. If you sent in $5k, then you are entitled to the full $5k.
Kindly let me know how can I recover the money? badly fell into the Nonko scam with help from DTP
How can I recover the money I lost in the fake trades?
Pushing NONKO that’s why DTP – Chris over-trades and keeps it going all day like a junkie – he sucks as a stock picker just look at these dismal and horrible results – the traders have to lose every which way – why is his site still up and he still in business? – http://daytradingpower.com/dtpresults/
Really need to recover back my money as I was fooled from beginning itself. These guys are so clever and fraud and I never could understand this. They just played with hundreds of newbees and the SEC with its 25k rule just does damages to hundreds of small investors and nothing else.
All are connected with each other to loot the common man
hey traders,
u mention all nonko account is transfered to mytradepod. Or u have totally no access to nonko or mytradepod account.
I have no access to nonko account.
They are non contactable. I lost half of my account with Nonko but that was due to my own trading.
whether it was simulator trading or real trading – I dont know.
Why would anyone send money to Nonko after reading your review? Even before you published that review you had detailed enough information and suspicions that anyone who read what you wrote should have known not to not go near them.
Because they believed the trading room promoter, whom told them that I was flat wrong. The trading room moderators are the ones that spread this disease.