Delta Trading Group

Delta Trading Group
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Delta Trading Group is a set of ridiculously expensive trading indicators that cost $7,800 and $600 each month for accompanying trading room. There is absolutely no track record of success from the trading moderator. No live trades called in room. No published track record, moderator refuses to verify live trading results. The moderator prefers to be called a Doctor, but a Doctor or what? Appears to be a mail order PhD. A complete smoke show of trading nonsense that targets low information AM radio listeners. The trading room is a daily, two hour infomercial focused on selling, not trading.

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Pros: Pretty good customer support. That's about it.
Cons: Trading room moderator is a fake PhD proclaiming that his trading indicators are the answer to all your money problems. No track record. Moderator refuses to verify personal trading results. A complete and total waste of time.

Today’s review is Delta Trading Group

What is Delta Trading Group? Delta Trading Group is an indicator package and trading room owned and moderated by Dr. Vance Cast. The cost of the indicators is a one time fee of $7,800, and the trading room has a monthly fee of $600. The indicators are programmed to work only on the Ensign charting platform.

Typically, when I am attempting to determine the effectiveness of a trading indicator, I like to see that the developer has developed an accompanying trading system that specifically uses the indicator. Every developer should be able to curve fit his indicator to work perfectly on past price data. Unfortunately, this developer never took this step, so there is no way to measure the effectiveness of his indicators. I consider this to be a major red flag. Most modern trading platforms have the ability to drop an indicator onto a chart and quickly back test. Apparently, Dr. Vance Cast feels that submitting his indicators to statistical analysis is not that important.

The next thing I look for is track record of trades from the indicator developer. It only makes sense that if the indicator developer has a positive trading track record using his own indicators, then I should at least have a chance of replication. However, Dr. Vance Cast provides no track record of any of his personal trades.

Finally, I look for a track record of the trades called in the live trading room. Simply put, where the moderator calls out a trade in demonstration of his software and then each trade is recorded. Over a period of time, usually a few weeks, we can determine whether the moderator’s trades are consistently profitable, and whether these trades are can be replicated. Once again, Dr Vance can provide no record of any trades called in his live trading room. There is simply no proof.

Calling Dr. Vance Cast

Next step was to call Dr. Vance himself, and speak with him about his indicators and how someone could verify the promises of “turning me into a full time professional trader”.  Unfortunately, the doctor was very busy and so I got to speak with both of his assistants, on two separate occasions. The first assistant explained that the doctor does not show any sort of trading verification, but if I attended the trading room, then I would be able to plainly see the brilliance of the doctor on full display.

The next guy I spoke with, I was a bit more aggressive regarding verifying Dr. Vance’s claims of being a full time professional trader for the past 20 years. Again, the next representative said that I should just watch Dr. Vance trade live and that I should talk to the other people in the trading room, and that they will all verify that Dr. Vance is indeed a master trader. I told him that all of this could be quickly alleviated, and that I was ready to send my $7,800 the very moment that Dr. Vance could show me that he is trading. I wasn’t asking for much, just a single month account statement showing that he trades, and that he made a net profit of at least one dollar. This simple request, the lowest of low bars was flatly denied. I found it amazing that he couldn’t even verify a single month, and yet he wanted me to send him $7,800 and pay $600 per month without even the smallest amount of verification.

A Closer Look At Dr. Vance

Vance Cast

Dr. Ridiculous Ego

One of things I found odd and highly annoying is how Vance and his assistants liberally use the title of “Doctor”. Both assistants always refer to him by “The Doctor” in nearly every sentence. They would toss out “The Doctor”, as if I were supposed to be impressed by such a lofty title. And so, I decided to do a little research into our “Doctor”. Just what sort of Doctor is he? From an accredited University? This really opened up a lot of questions and so I once again asked his assistants and requested more information. One of the assistants said that he was a doctor of psychology, and so I asked him which university? He said that nobody had ever asked him this question and he would get back to me. The other assistant wasn’t really sure what a doctor was, or what a person had to do, or what process they needed to be titled a doctor.

On the Delta Trading Group website, Dr. Vance claims that he earned a PhD in organizational management. But there is no reference to which accredited university that Dr. Vance studied. He also claims that he is world renowned expert in Risk Homeostasis Theory and that his dissertation can be read at the University of Minnesota library. Next, I went to the University of Minnesota library and ran a search for any published articles by Dr. Vance Cast. No articles whatsoever. This left me confused and so I next called the library and asked if they could find any reference to this supposed dissertation. The librarian called me the next day and could find no reference to this person. Interesting.

There is also a link to read his dissertation at Hong Kong University, but the link, followed to its completion leads to only a blank page.

Next, my final search for this dissertation was by searching Google Scholar. Once again, no links to this ground breaking Phd material.


This whole question of having a Phd, and having his staff always refer to Vance as “The Doctor” of something fancy sounding got my imagination really working overtime. Wouldn’t it be cool if I got a PhD and started referring to myself as a doctor? Can you imagine the respect I would get if I added that to the end of my name and had all my of employees now refer to me as a doctor? What is the first thing when someone thinks when they hear “Doctor”? You think of someone really smart, educated, and well respected. But really, how difficult is it to be called a Doctor? Is there any special thing one must attain, from some accredited body?

Considering that our Doctor Vance Cast is offering a trading product, and since trading product vendors seems to attract the shadiest hustlers, I decided that I should find out exactly what it takes to get an official degree and now begin calling myself Doctor. And so I google searched, “Get a PhD Fast“. I was surprised at what I found. Apparently, there is a cottage industry of “Universities” that will issue a PhD based on life experience work. In a nutshell, a person writes an article about a topic of interest and then submits to one of these universities and they guarantee, for a fee, that you will have your PhD in only a few days. This appears to be the likely path of our newly appointed Dr. Vance Cast. Still dont believe how easy it is to get a PhD? Check out the story of Zoe the cat…a real house cat with mutiple Phd’s.

Why is this relevant? If I were to offer a trading room or a trading product, and if I also have an accompanying PhD in something titled, “Risk Homeostasis Theory and Auction Market Theory of Financial Markets” it certainly makes my product appear to be much more credible. The unwashed person could very easily be fooled into believing that I am an expert, and that verifying something like an actual trading record would be unnecessary due diligence. In fact, in speaking with several of Dr. Vance’s students, I asked them if they verified that he actually trades. The response was uniform in that each felt that since he was a doctor, that he must be credible and they didn’t need to verify because of the implied trustworthiness of his lofty title.

The Reverend Vance Cast

Apparently, being a doctor was not good enough for Vance Cast. He also needed to be a reverend. For only a small fee, a person can also be a fully ordained Reverend, which includes an official diploma and a badge. You can find our good Dr. Vance Cast’s listing at the First Church of Atheism. In my opinion, the good doctor should also include on the Delta Trading Group website that he is also a reverend. When I found this listing, it literally made me laugh hysterically.

Some Other Exploits Worthy Of Mention

Vance Cast is quite the showman. In addition to the current gig as trading guru, he also has done some other corny things. On his twitter page, he describes himself as a Best Selling Author (whatever that means), research analyst, and commercial pilot.  There is no mention of being a full time professional trader of 20 years. His last twit was November 2012, so I assume that this trading guru thing is a relatively new endeavor. If you run a search on Archive.Org, you will see that the DeltaTradingGroup website is about a year old.

In addition to the Delta Trading Group website, our good doctor/Reverend has promoted a few other projects:, where our good doctor will build you a website for only $24.95 each month., where the good doctor can show you how to promote trading products and make big bucks., a website that teaches the secrets of Forex trading., and, dating websites. You better ask the doctor personally about this craziness.

Once thing we can say for sure about Vance Cast, he is a great promoter with a long history of selling stuff.

The Crown Jewel Of Promotion

So how does Vance keep feeding his marketing machine? How is he able to generate new leads? AM radio. The following link is to a site titled The American Dream Radio Show. Vance has a pre-recorded, one hour show that is tailor made to appeal to the lowest of the low information consumer…AM radio listeners.

You can listen to the show, in its entirety here. The marketing is quite good. He does a great job of convincing folks that he is the real deal, and that becoming a full time professional day trader is super easy…if you only follow the advice of the good doctor.

The whole point of the show is to drive people into a free trial of his trading room.

The Delta Trading Room

First things first, this is not the average trading room that I typically encounter when writing a review. The Delta trading room typically lasts two hours each day. In total, I recorded 14 hours of video footage. Not once did I witness actual trading. What I did witness was a daily infomercial and promotion on how great Vance is, and how everyone is together and making money and reaching their dreams of a worry free, financially independent lifestyle. You know the pitch.

Essentially, each day was a repeat of the conversation from the prior day. No trading. But lots of talking. Vance can really talk. In fact, he spends the entire two hours each day talking and talking and talking. Telling us how great his software is, and how much money is made, and how easy it is, etc. How trading is about psychology and money management, etc. The usual platitudes that we commonly hear. But no trading. And certainly no track record.

Some of you reading this are probably wondering why I even bothered recording 14 hours of video, when it was quickly obvious that no actual trading was occurring. Well, the assistants kept assuring me that if I waited long enough, at some point I would definitely be watching some live trading. After 7 days of recording, I simply could not witness a single trade. Frustrating.

Of course, some of you might still be thirsty to consume some of the good Doctor’s magical trading elixir, and so I snipped out a portion of his endless rambling and produced the following video. He gets a little animated in this short clip.

Wrapping Things Up

So what exactly is the Delta Trading Group? In a nutshell, Vance Cast is very clever promoter. He attached the PhD to his name to sound really official and smart. Next he got an off the shelf trading platform and whipped up some custom trading indicators. Then, he had a one hour radio infomercial produced that runs nearly non stop to the most naive and low information purchaser….the AM radio listener. The entire goal is to drive traffic from the radio program into the daily trading room, which is just an infomercial.

There is no track record of any sort. The entire goal of Vance is to play the numbers and find those few naive suckers with little experience at trading, and are clueless about how most of these trading promoters work. He is not looking for the typical person that spends $200 a month for a trading room signal provider. He is looking for the poor rube that is driving his car, listening to AM radio, interested in listening to shallow stories of conspiracy theories and UFO sightings. This person is probably driving in his car, either to or from work, is probably blue collar with little hope of escaping the misery of the current rat race existence. They hear the radio show and imagine the cool elixir of a well worded hope cocktail, about how anyone can easily become a day trader and achieve the financial success that they have always hoped for. How they need to call now and get access to the live trading room, where Dr Vance will show them how to simply sit in front of a computer and trading dollars start magically appearing with the greatest of ease.

Of course, many of my readers know that this is all a fantasy.

A Personal Note To Vance Cast

Show me the money. Show me an account statement. I would love to be proven wrong and have to come back and grovel and apologize. And just imagine how many of my readers that will flock to your site to purchase your product, once you prove me wrong. Surely you will soon read this review and you are going to be pissed off to no end. You will want to sue me for defamation (like everyone else) and whatever else you can think of. So come here, onto TradingSchools.Org and talk to me. I am waiting. Ready to engage a brilliant doctor. Ready to debate the reality of your proposition.

But we know that you wont engage me. Because this means that you will be forced into showing trading performance, something you have intention of doing. Why? Because the truth is that you do not trade profitably. Delta Trading is a fantasy. These fantastic profits that you profess are just a smoke show, they are not real. Just like your mail order PhD.

Well that’s if for today. Another crummy trading product from yet another charlatan. Another guru with no proof, hiding behind a curtain of lies and deceit. Dont forget to leave your comments below. Seems like its been forever since I have written a positive review. Thanks for reading.

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Joanne Higgins
Joanne Higgins
Love this review and thw support of his employees. I heard this on the radio yesterday while I was humorist myself with a.m. radio. Bottom line IMO: -if it sounds too good to be true, it’s too good to be true. -The only people who will get rich on these scams, are the scammers. Don’t be a scammee with these folks aggressive marketing. -these people prey on those that want easy $. They use all the key words and pretend to be transparent in their “talk show.” This may fool people who think this is not a paid advertisement. Do… Read more »

Yikes – Sorry for typos 🙁


…and don’t forget about Vance’s alter-ego: his lead goon “Tony Foxmann”. This is the name of the guy that typically rides into to the rescue from somewhere out in cyberspace anytime The Doctor is being attacked. “Tony’s” email threats and tantrums are classic and often thousands of words long.

…and the best part of all is that “Tony Foxmann” is actually Vance himself!

Guest is the crooked fake doctors new website


I’ve been a member of Delta Trading Group for 10 months. I’ve participated in the daily webinars and have seen Dr. Vance trade at least once a day for 6 months. I don’t participate in the webinar anymore because I don’t need to. The program works. I now make $250-$1000 a week, and, this is the first time I’ve ever day traded.

Like other comments, his system needs to be followed to a T! If followed, it works.

Joe Black, Sr.
Joe Black, Sr.

May I ask on what amount of principle are you making that amount of money? What is your Percent of Return?


So, if you don’t mind sharing, what is the size of your brokerage account that you trade with to bring in 250-1000 a week and how many contracts are you trading at a time?


The normal funding amount is $3000.00, and the trades are using 1 contract on each trade. The normal trade is goes for a Gain of 4 pts ($200) and a loss of ($150), so, on average you go up when you follow the rules. As an example a lot of the members made 4 points today or a Profit of $200. Now, if you make that every day, you can work out the calculations.

Mike M

OMG please read the review and the comments about this website before you waste your time and money.

Rob B

“Now, if you make that every day, you can work out the calculations.”

Yea in a complete BS fantasy world. Joe, don’t you think folks here are sick of listening to the lies. I would say have the TR or yourself show proof of your claims, but I already know you cannot do it.

All I can say is at this point anyone that has read this blog knows this whole industry is nothing but con artist. I cannot image anyone being dump enough to believe your unsubstantiated claims.


“normal funding account” is 3k. The sham vendor desperation you are shilling for, “Joe”, just seeps out. It’s more like he’s not getting enough 3k “package” sales from churned dupes anymore thanks to retailers wising up to the sham industry.

Bill Grunnah
Bill Grunnah

I have been a member for almost 8 months. Above and beyond what you have written, check out Joseph Fusco. He lead a scam that offered to get grants for small businesses until he got shut down. He also goes by Bobby Fusco. His scam never got anybody the grants they were promised, but Delta’s business model is almost an exact duplicate. At Delta, they don’t use his last name, but just call him Joseph. It would not surprise me at all if Cast is just operating as a front man for Fusco.


Thanks for the review, Unfortunately, they sound even worse than I imagined. It is still fun to listen to their radio ads though….

Todd M
Dear Emmitt, I just wanted to comment on your review. Yes I’m a little biased, because I’m a Delta member, but I’m always interested in an honest review. I search for them often when doing business online. The problem I have, is that this appears to be more of a personal attack piece than a review. When you take this approach, I have to question your motives. Why not address Doc’s methodology and which part of it you disagree with? Or how you believe his never ending attempt to teach us money management is leading us astray? This seems to… Read more »
Stray Dog

Really Todd M! You don’t care that the relationship you have with someone you are paying money to is all built on lies? If it’s all about his methodology then why does he lie about his qualifications? The good doctor should focus on convincing people that his method is sound rather than using phony qualifications to do that. And, as with all these gurus, having them produce verified trading statements also shouldn’t be an unreasonable expectation.

PhD Jojo, MBA
PhD Jojo, MBA

Wow, those scam rooms now collect not 100 monthly, not 200,but 600?! Incredible.


There is more to it then you know.

Joe Black, Sr.
Joe Black, Sr.

That’s the whole issue her, “More than you know.” why can’y you say what it is that is more? You are asking for almost $10K to find out the “more.” That doesn’t sound like a good investment. So, just trust you, huh? If I said just send me $10k and I’ll send you a car that is worth much more than that, would you do it? Oh, BTW, I have a PHD.


Don’t eat your pie to soon!

mike c

I have been working with Vance for approx. 4 months and his program has been unbelievably. It works if you follow the rules. Try it and you will see


I disagree with the review. I am a member of the group and the system works. As long as you follow the rules it is very profitable. Why would Ensign have Dr Cast as a Mentor trader on their website if it were a scam? I love Dr. Cast, he has helped people change their lives. Some people will never get it, they break the rules and don’t have the discipline, but like I said the system works if you follow the rules! The best dam trading group on the planet! Ride the range of change baby!

Joe Black, Sr.
Joe Black, Sr.
OK, then, why no recorded proof? Real financial traders can trace their progress and show what they made. I don’t do a lot of trading, but i can show you all of my trades, how much I made or lost and which trades did what. It is a bit amazing that a person with the ego the Dr has wouldn’t want tho brag about his trades. Just show the total percentage increase in your book over a one year period. How much do you have to make to offset a $15K fee? Anyone who won’t show proof, is subject in… Read more »
Steve Jones
Steve Jones

Show us the results Tim. Words are cheap (and often are full of lies and deception). Results are what matter. Can you show us your results?

Why would Ensign have him as a mentor? Simple. He uses and promotes their software. I’m sure he gets a kickback. The phrase “Ensign mentor” is nothing more than a play on a words to gain credibility and $$$. I don’t think the review necessarily labels it a scam. It looks to me like Emmett is simply looking for proof that it’s not a scam. The real scam is your mentor’s background. Check it out for yourself, do the math, and if you don’t care, then don’t. You’re a member, so, they already have your money. Those that aren’t should… Read more »

your reviews are spot on and honest evaluation of the FURUS that claim to be GURUS – another excellent observation and savior for the unaware – you are the man keep it up Emmett!!

David C

You totally overlooked his MBA. I think the diploma mill was having a 2-for-1 sale when he bought the PhD, so he got them both.


Just a quick thanks Emmett for all you do. You are providing an invaluable service!

Edwin Richardson
Edwin Richardson

Thanks for your research. I would have been one of those victims. I’m a single parent looking to supplement if not replace my current income and Dr. Vance talks a good show. Thanx for stopping what could have been a disaster not to mentions hundreds of dollars wasted. Any suggestion on a legit day trading opportunity? With a Finance Degree, I do like the idea of day trading full time.