Traders Den 24 and Night Scalper UPDATED Review

Traders Den 24/Night Scalper
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Summary

Vendor really stepped up and decided to be open and transparent. Bill Costarides went from ZERO to HERO. All trades are now verified.

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Pros: Trading performance is now completely transparent. Trading room owner decided to take the path of openness and honesty in trading results.
Cons: The trading room has a couple of assistant moderators that should not be moderating a live trading environment. Bill likes to trade at night. If you are located in the US, then expect some weird hours.

Original Night Scalper, Traders Den 24 Review

On January 6th, 2015, I published a negative review regarding a live day trading room named Night Scalper, AKA TradersDen24. You can read about the negative review by following this link.

The room is owned and operated by Bill Costarides, and Bill claims to be a pretty good trader. My review covered over 50 hours of recordings of trading sessions. Although the moderators were quite nice, I could not verify even one live trade. A couple of the moderators were simply calling trades based upon gut feel, did not show a trading DOM, nor gave clear instructions on entry or exit points. Also, on the website, there is no record of trades. Big red flags. And I certainly have the videos to prove everything.

Post Review-What Usually Happens

Usually, after I post a really negative review, one of two things will happen. The proprietor of said trading room either disappears or protests. Websites just go blank! Sometimes they create a new name and move all of the sales copy to a new address, making the same pitch to the same rubes. Sometimes they email me and scream obscenities, threaten lawsuits, call me and leave nasty voice mails messages, and all sorts of negativity. Which of course, is great! I want nothing more than to engage with a trading vendor after a negative review. This is actually an opportunity for us consumers in the trading marketplace to air our grievances and let our voices be heard.

What Happened with Bill Costarides

Bill disagreed with my review. And I simply explained that his moderators were a bunch of clowns, that should not be moderating a trading room. If customers were to follow these moderators, then they would lose…BIG TIME. In addition, I flat out stated that I thought that his trading products were flat out nonsense, and that he probably could not trade his way out of a pair of dirty underwear.

The Wizard Behind The Curtain

Sometimes, after I write some really harsh and tough language in a review, feelings can be so hurt and intense that any sort of forward or progressive dialog becomes impossible. I try and be as nice as possible, even after a negative review. With Bill Costarides, I simply asked for an account statement that proves he eats his own cooking. Usually, this is where the conversation ends. Most vendors do not trade. And the ones that do trade would never show an account statement because the wizard behind the curtain is never as powerful and omnipotent as the mysterious wizard hiding behind the curtain of mystique and intrigue.

Removing The Curtain

I was very nice with Bill Costratides, I would not rewrite or remove my “negative hate filled lying” review unless he show me definitive proof of trading activity. And in all honesty, I did not expect to ever hear from him or anyone as his company. However, one day I received an email from a registered commodity broker that had been given me unfettered access to complete trading records to Bills trading account. Awesome! What a surprise! Lets review.

Trading Records and Proof Of Trading

Well folks, I have the statements going back to origination and founding of Night Scalper and Traders Den 24. Since the day to day trades cover a massive amount of information, I have decided to only include the monthly statements which show the consolidated trading results.

Nightscalper-Legacy-Account-June-2014-to-March-2015

Some of this might be confusing to some readers, so let me dig out the real numbers, the only numbers that matter…the monthly profit and loss:

May 2014$20,000
June 2014$22,269
July 2014$26,730
August 2014$23,611
September 2014 $26,600
October 2014$24,600
November 2014$21,352
December 2014$22,491
January 2015$28,836
February 2015$30,182
March 2015$32,509
Some of your might be looking at this, and be thinking to yourself that $12,500 in after commission profits is not that good. However, this is a return on your account of over 50% in only 10 months. And my friends and enemies alike, a 50% return in only 10 months is FANTASTIC. If this trend continues, and in speaking with Bill, this is quite the ordinary, you could actually have a chance of having a nice savings at retirement. Or if you can learn Bill’s method, then you have a real shot at earning a living at trading. Are the draw downs on account too much? Did he draw down to break even? Yes. However, this is the truth about trading that nobody every talks about. And the simple truth is that successful trading is never a straight line, upward equity curve.

Where Do We Go From Here?

Quite obviously, I have to sit here and eat humble pie. Bill Costrides is a successful trader, and he has proven his ability, without a shadow of doubt and trade by trade he has proven his mettle and skill. So, should we now all plunge into this and purchase what he is selling? In my opinion, not yet. The reason is because the room is being moderated by several individuals that should not be moderating a live trading environment. If Bill were to commit to a set schedule and give us unlimited access, then this would be a great opportunity.

Another consideration, Bill loves to trade the night session, which means that you could be watching a monitor at 2 am. I am not sure that I want to sacrifice a good nights sleep, but this might be appealing to you. Perhaps you live in Europe, Hawaii, Asia, etc. where these hours would be the normal working day. These should be your own personal consideration.

The Most Important Lesson

In my opinion, the most important lesson to be learned is that as consumers of trading products, we need to start being more assertive with vendors regarding providing an authentic trading record. If we want to model another trader, or learn a technique, we need to start absolutely demanding authenticity. Sure, some of my reviews are harsh, ugly and brutal, but the end result is that several vendors have really stepped up and gotten transparent with results. Others have disappeared with their shady wares. Hopefully, with enough reviews, we can change the trajectory and start bending the arc towards truth and honesty.

Thanks for reading and don’t forget to leave comments below.

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angela
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I did a trial of this room, based upon Emmett’s review update and some comments here. And I was more than happy to continue with a full subscription. It’s not perfect, and I didn’t expect it to be perfect. But it’s very good and Bill and his other moderators are honest, and call their trades in real time. No trading room can make anyone successful at trading. That’s all up to the individual trader, what he/she can see and interpret, discipline, capitalization and psychology. Bill is very good at reading the Globex session, which really suits those who want to… Read more »
angela
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of course Harry likes to complain about taxes. Meanwhile, my tax dollars are paying for their stop signs.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_reckoning/2012/10/25/blue_state_red_face_guess_who_benefits_more_from_your_taxes.html

angela
Guest

for some reason the spell correct substituted “He knows what he is doing with highThe problem is that ” with “He knows what he is doing with high probability trades. The problem is …”

Bob
Guest

Love this guy! His reviews are great. Like he said. There needs to be more honesty with traders. It is hard to find a real trader “guru”. Not someone pretending to trade

Jan
Guest
Well, not to worry, folks, Bill (The Greek) is the real deal. He’s been trading the Globex market longer than I even knew there was a “market”, let alone a Globex. I’m not surprised he produced a record from his brokerage account — he’s a straight shooter. It’s my opinion, after a few months in the trading room, that the real gem is the afternoon moderator who comes on at 2:00 pm — WC Roy. Far more than merely calling out trades, he is determined to teach us how to trade like the professional traders trade from price action using… Read more »
Bill Costarides
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Bill Costarides

Lasting about 2 hrs each. Our members have total and complete access to our library with recordings and documents to study. We offer live moderators and education around the clock. TD24 also has trials available for 9.00 for a month trial and the you pay 147.00 per month for around the clock trading, access to trading tools and all the education you want. I am willing to give you all the access you want to the room. In summary, show me a chat room that offers more than TD24 for the money. BC

Bill Costarides
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Bill Costarides

I was disappointed of learning about your review. Traders Den 24 started Jan 1 2015, so we have only been keeping records for a couple of months. I am proud of our traders and the work and time each dedicate to educating and helping our members navigate today’s markets, each one having years of experience. Harry Vance has 30 plus years trading futures, Dr. Frank Stanley, 20 plus years and Roy Rittola and John Andres 60 years plus combined. We have regular educational webinars in our classroom lasting 2hrs. or more

Jeff
Guest
This is a very unique site in that it specializes in night tradeing. HFTs are barely active at all at night and earnings and fed moves are irrelevant. So trading is more reactive in international markets. Night trading was the original intent of the site but Bill added several other moderators who I think are quite good so members can get trading advise around the clock. They also do training seminares at no additional cost. One moderator (West Coast Roy) has probably forgotten more about market profile than most people know. Very knowlegable people and I highly recommend. Btw, I… Read more »
Bonnie
Guest
You are wrong about the skills of the moderators in TradersDen24 trade room. WC Roy is a very good teacher, shares his trades with us, his targets and stops. We are free to tag along if we choose. I choose because he is exceptionally accurate. The entire time he is on duty he is educating. Kudos to WC Roy!!! EC Roy calls his own trades. Again we are free to follow. I have never lost on a WC Roy trade that I entered. I have not caught all his trades or been able to get them filled, but guess I… Read more »
Marianne
Guest
Emmett, I must recommend to your fellow readers to come and join the first Tuesday of each month to learn the trading techniques of Bill. I have learned many new techniques for trading through being a member of Trader’s Den 24. For instance; at 1:00 p.m. CT, West Coast Roy explains trading using a technique called Market Profiles. I have earned a good income while trading during M period of the day. Although I do not trade options; the moderator John, is very informative and shares ALL his trades and recommendations with us. I am always amazed at how many… Read more »
Bryan Wilson
Guest

I have been in this room for more than 2 years and would not give up my subscription as the moderators are great and very concerned about the members of the room. I know that when a trade goes wrong [this occasionally happens] they feel for the room members. For the most part their trades are successful and they always take risk management into consideration. If you equate the cost with the benefits, any member is getting a great deal. This is the real deal in trading rooms.

Robert
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Pleae post the actual broker statements of the live callers in each timezone. Its the only way to evaluate them fairly.

John Carper
Guest
BOTH of your reviews were right on. There definitely is a dichotomy here and I was hoping that your reviews would get Bill and his gang to get motivated and finally get their act together but I think it only has gotten them to circle the wagons. The other moderators are not bozos and are probably excellent traders, hard to know with out posted track records but they sure are nice guys. Today was a typical example of what goes on. WC was doing his room (which is only in the chat room) but there were some Renko charts up… Read more »
John Carper
Guest

I totally agree with you Mike. It’s the time and wasted effort. Education costs money, so losing a bit of money to learn doesn’t kill me but it is the time spent on puffed up educators that can’t trade, just “educate” your money and time away from you. you can make money back but time lost is time lost.

john
Guest
I have 5 years experience and I have seen the hype of many other traders. The moderators in the TradersDen24 are real traders with real experiences in my opinion. I am in the 30 days $9.00 Trial right now. I have made more than $1,000 following along with their trades. I have my own style of trading based on my experience. I use Ninja Trader and my charts are not at all like theirs. I use the chat room for trade ideas, trade entry and exit targets. The moderators took the time to explain why they placed a trade. Teaching… Read more »
John
Guest

Just wanted to say I am happy to see All the comments, pro and cons, as I have only recently discovered NightScalper/TradersDen24/Bill Costarides – and am going to take a trail and decide for myself. So, I find all the comments helpful. Thank you! And, finally, am very, very glad to have seen responses from Bill himself!!

Thank you again for your service!

Jon G
Guest

I only made it on the chat room a couple times during my trial, but I saw positive trades completed it was a nice chat room to be apart of.

Paul R
Guest
Emmett, thank you for your service to traders. I have been in many rooms during my trading excursion, and most of them were a waste of my hard earned money. (Thousands of dollars). When I read about your review of Tradersden24, I went to have a look. It is still early, but this room has something to offer almost everyone. I don’t know how much you have listened to W C Roy trade, but I think he is probably the best I have ever witnessed. I just wish he had more than the 2 hours in which he is slotted.… Read more »
Rob B
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After your revised review I thought I would try out this room. So far I think your 1st review was correct. In fairness I have not really followed Bill’s night calls. But being some others commented on Roy W I tried to follow his calls. And what I have seen so far is someone who not only does not display his trades but does not even display his Murray lines and Market Profile he claims he uses for the trades. There is no explanation of his trades what so ever. I have asked him to review his trades and the… Read more »
JS
Guest

Did you take a look at their auto-trade managed program? is it something that you think is worth considering for those who are busy? Thanks.

pachoo5
Guest

This is one of the few legit trading sites on the web with real traders trading real accounts.

Jim Francis
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Jim Francis

I found TD-24’s West Coast Roy to be a very accurate and low-risk ES trader during the afternoon sessions. Unfortunately, he left (at least temporarily) recently and I decided to let my TD-24 membership lapse. Does anyone have info about W.C. Roy’s potential return? TD-24 does not respond to my email requests on the subject.

L
Guest

Logic tells us that he does not answer your emails because he does not trade and can’t prove anything.It’s a subtle way of deceit.

Paul
Guest

I think WC Roy is back now.

c Mertens
Guest

It ‘s a good site to start with trading.
Bill is the founder and a no nonsense guy. He knows how the markets acts and is consisent . There is a very good trader in options as well. The main issue is handling emotions, handling a proces and being consistent. Bill offers you a fair start at a low price.

Pete Kinger
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Pete Kinger

Trial 9 bucks…sign me up

Nick
Guest

Looking at the statement I agree that there is a nice profit after 10 months.
My dumb question is: how many contracts is using per trade? or how many contracts rotate during the month?
Also I was checking his website and trial is $67 no $9… Any idea?

Rich S.
Guest

Have read all of the above and now have great concern for Emmett’s lack of response to the numerous negative comments posted above. Will have a problem in the honesty of future reviews unless an in depth review is forthcoming. Being a crusader for honesty bears a large burden and to date this is not apparent from Emmett’s comments regarding Algo. In fact it smells.

BP
Guest

I’m doing a trial of this room right now off a webinar he did and so far I am pleasantly surprised. It’s $47 for the month trial now. I really like Harry in the morning and Bill at night. I’m not familiar with the others yet. But so far so good. Strongly considering joining up after the trial if what I’ve seen so far keeps up.

Juan
Guest

Thanks Emmet for your reviews. I’m from Spain and I’ve recently discovered your web. It is an excelent resource. I’m going to try TradersDen 24 and, once completed the trial period, i will provide my personal opinion.

Brian Linsey
Guest
Emmett, as someone who has been researching Day Trading Groups, I appreciate your thorough reviews and candor. I have a friend who has profited nicely with Delta Trading Group and, consequently, I was leaning that way. And then – I read your review/commentary on Delta and whoa!, I pulled the pause button in a hurry. I am now actively considering Traders Den 24. In reviewing their site, I see that a trial is now $67 (up from $9 and $47 previously mentioned in this thread) and $147/month thereafter. Does anyone know if it truly has gone up this much, this… Read more »
Rob B
Member

Brian,

I tried their trial. The traders that were on during the day were a complete joke. You can see my review above. I just went by the name Rob back then. Emmett’s review was based on Bill’s trading. The problem is Bill traded at night so it was not really practical for me so I can not comment. Also it was not like Bill came on and was there, instead he would just hop on when something was happening. So if you trade at night already it might be worth checking out.

Brian
Guest

Emmett and Rob,

Thanks for your comments. Let me ask this question then – are there ANY strong day trading groups out there that you would unequivocally recommend for someone willing to invest the necessary money and – more importantly – time to master? The last thing I want is to end up another investor/lamb who was fleeced!

Brian

Rob B
Member
Brian, Sorry for the late response, but just saw your question. I have answered this question in the past, maybe you can search for my past posts. I am hard pressed to name a trading room (TR) I would recommend as the vast majority teach a method that I do not think can be traded profitably. Maybe during the NASDAQ bull market their teaching worked, but not in today’s market. IMO they are just trying to scam underfunded and clueless investors out of their money by teaching pure BS fantasy. Most TR teach some sort of micro scalping technique using… Read more »
Todd
Guest

Do you read this site Brian? Emmett has several strong reviews and each of those vendors has positives and negatives. It is up to you to read about them, figure out which one might suit you the best, and try them out.

Stray Dog
Guest

Brian, watchhimtrade.com

Dav
Guest

Those who are still a member of trade room can tell me if RC Roy (RW Roy) is still trading with tradersden24? I heard that he’s very good

Dav
Guest

I meant WC Roy (west Coast).

Peter
Guest

I just read your review on Traders Den 24. As you attended the live room I want to ask you if from your experience Bill was profitable or not. I am only interested in following Bill’s trades(no one else). Do you thing that following Bill is something worth trying?

Paul
Guest

I’ve began a trial last friday 2/9/16.

As I live downunder and have always been told by so called educators in the US you can’t make money trading the night session. So , apart from trading ASX I will be focusing on what Bill has to say and teach during the asian session and following into the european session.

To date I have read and watched 90% of his material over the weekend and will enter the room tomorrow Monday 10am NZD time.

Paul
Guest
Bill has made two calls both sells on the ES. First sell stop was hit, apparently it was meant to be moved 2 points higher but was never posted. Bill apologized for this error. If stop was moved higher would have returned about 4points profit. 2nd entry at sell 2185,75 moved about 1 point against the trade, hung about most of the day to move 2 easy points lower, retraced to entry zone and fell 2186 zone to 2178. Nice trade. Bill’s commentary and knowledge on the markets is excellent. Mentioned what the DAX should do on news and 10… Read more »
Paul
Guest
1 month in the trading room. Number 1 question. Have i made money. No. Has Bill made money? Yes. I also missed a couple of entries that would have put the account into positive territory. The biggest problem I have found is stop placement. At times Bill calls a trade only to be stopped before it moving in the desired direction. They stops are very tight mostly and the individual has room to adjust to their own risk management. So this issue can be rectified. As an educational resource I feel Bill offers excellent material and if you follow his… Read more »
Rob B
Guest

Just out of curiosity, you stated I am not making money but Bill is. Why is Bill making money while you are losing money? You say you missed some entries, but on balance why would that make a difference. Statistically if you are missing entries you would be missing losing and winning entries, so it should not make a difference except in maybe the amount of money you are making.

Paul
Guest

I wouldn’t expect any positive from you Rob. I stated i missed some trades that would have turned the account to positive.

The other side of the coin is , I took all Bills winning trades and made a fortune.

My presentation of Traders24 is a true account of my experience. Perhaps you should try Trader24 and decide for yourself. Until then your opinion means nothing.

Rob B
Guest
My question was neither positive or negative and I voiced no opinion. I am not sure why you would be so defensive on a simple question unless there is more that the eye does not see. If I say positive things if there is something to be positive about. I asked a question about your post, because I just did not understand the reason Bill made money while you do not and frankly still do not. You state, “I missed some trades that would have turned the account to positive.” OK, everyone misses a trade here or there, but statistically… Read more »
Rob B
Guest
You know I think based on your response I will this time voice an opinion. First, if you have taken Bill’s trades for an extended period of time then your results should be close to the same. Not the amount of money made as you took less trades, but you should be profitable. If on the other hand you took so few of Bill’s trades to evauate his results then how can you post he is positive? You have not taken enough trades to have any statistically meaningful results. So why post results for a over a short period. That… Read more »
Stray Dog
Guest

Geez Rob B next you’ll be asking for the room operator to post brokerage statements to verify profitable trading. Stop bringing me down man. Be positive.

Rob B
Guest

LOL! I could not stop laughing because this is what many of the trader’s I skype with tell me. They go from one room to another and when I say can the room operator show any proof what so every he trades profitable, they say, “Stop bringing me down man. Be positive” or something along those lines.

The funny thing is Bill might be able to trade profitable. I was just curious why Pete could not take his trades and be profitable.

Paul
Guest

Why don’t you just pull your wallet out and spend $70..00 and take the 1 month trial. You MAY even learn something,

The other problem here Rob is you always try to turn comments into a negative and by doing that your intended or unintended comments are not only useless, but show the negative personality you carry. The world is not flat Rob. So take the trial and get back to us here in one month. Then your opinion may carry some weight.

Rob B
Guest

As I stated I took the trial and posted my opinion at that time.

BTW, I have no opinion on Bill’s trading.

But none of that has anything to do with your post. You seem not to be able to provide any reasonable explanation why Bill’s trading was profitable, but you were not even though you followed most of his trades. And somehow I doubt you will ever provide a reasonable explanation.

Paul
Guest

So you did the trial and got nothing out of it? OMG.

Rob B
Guest
I will recap my post from long ago when I tried Bill’s room. This was awhile back so things certainly could be different. During the day when I trade the moderators where a bunch of clowns to put it nicely. They could not trade if their life depended on it. I went into details in that post. Bill on the other hand traded at night and he was not even on the mic 90% of the time. He would just pop on now and then. So as I said then I was not able to follow Bill’s trading and had… Read more »
Paul
Guest

.Rob B (does B mean Bulshit?)

This is your quote.

” In fairness I have not really followed Bill’s night calls.”

In regards to this room I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. You state you never really followed Bills calls. Yet you make huge statements and all the rest , blah, blah blah, one in every crowd i guess.

What a joke.

Stray Dog
Guest

@ Paul, Tell if I’ve got this right. You haven’t made any money in Bill’s room, Bill won’t post his trading statements to prove that he’s profitable and Rob’s the one full of bullshit!

Paul
Guest
@Stray Dog, If i said i made money would that be bulshit? If i say I don’t make any money thats bulshit too. I understand most of you aren’t trading and use this site to make excuses why you can’t trade or to look for the holy-grail. Thats your choice. I’m not just following Bills trades , i’m actually using his bias and numbers in correlation with my own system, Sometimes they are in agreement, sometimes not. At that point I decide whether to enter or not. The last month has all been about developing my own globex system and… Read more »
Rob B
Guest

Paul,

I think you need to get back on your meds.

My comments where about your post where you promoted Bill’s room without providing any real useful information. In fact you still have not. I seriously doubt you took a single live trade that Bill took.

If you did you should be able to give your stats instead of your constant nonsense replies.

I think you are a joke. I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

Cyn
Guest

“I was just curious why Pete could not take his trades and be profitable.”

You must have “Pete on the brain” syndrome. That was Paul. Stop robbing Paul to pay Pete. It is usually done the other way around, if you know what I mean? 🙂

Rob B
Guest

LOL, at my age I pat my self on the back for at least getting one letter of the name correct.

Paul
Guest

If I gave you a nice big bunch of flowers, you would find a rotten flower and bitch about it.

Just because you have some type of a psychological disorder, you don’t need to spread your misgivings to others.

Get help.

Get a life.

Perhaps Dr Phil could help you.

Paul
Guest

Come on you guys. Do you actually think I am going to sit in front of my computer 24/5 in order to take every trade Bill posts???

If i took every trade i would have been profitable, as i stated.

Rob B
Guest
Paul Did you fail 3rd grade math? You do not have to take everyone of Bill’s trades. No one said you did. Do you not understand basic statistics? Are we suppose to believe you are just this amazingly unlucky person who only takes Bill’s losing trades? I do not understand what part you do not get. I will once again try and explain it to you, but I am starting to think I am talking to a rock. Statistically over time if Bill is profitable you should be profitable. Especially when some is day trading and making many scalps a… Read more »
dtchurn
Guest
These new comments prompted me to re-read the review. The .pdf statements are no longer accessible from the link. And I have to disagree. The vendor isn’t a ‘successful’ trader. Most would consider a successful trader to be able to make a living from trading, usually over 100k ross before taxes and the various expenses. All these just-breakeven traders who may show some statements or their dom aren’t quite there yet. Yet it’s a conundrum, where finding a vendor who could actually not have to do a site for extra income is as rare as winning the lottery, virtually zero… Read more »
Paul
Guest

If i had have taking over 30 trades in his room then i would have the minimum worth while statistical number to work with.

I valued Bill performance by his P&L shown daily while in the room and by the trades I logged.

It doesn’t matter what anyone says to you Rob, you will always find the negative.

Cyn
Guest

You do seem rather awfully invested in trying to make us believe that Bill is profitable, even while your own trading is not, despite being a shadow of his.

Instead of being so combative, maybe you could tell us why you cannot match the performance of your hero.

All I see you write so far are excuses. If you lack the statistical data, then maybe you should have waited until you had enough data instead of this “praise to high heavens with no proof” posting that you are indulging in? No?

Paul
Guest

Do what i did. Take the trial and work it out for yourself. Not that difficult.. But then again if you’re looking for the holy grail then perhaps you are in the wrong place trolling forums looking for answers. Perhaps it’s you who is making excuses?

By the way Bills pnl today is + 258

Cyn
Guest
At no time did I say that I was searching for anything. I was questioning your increasingly shrill and desperate writing to try to make us believe that some TR is profitable. I was asking why you were making statements if you did not have the statistics available. For that you start another of your rabid, insulting attacks? At this point you are so devoid of logic that even reading you is a chore. It is said that one should not argue with an ignorant fool because bystanders may not be able to tell the difference. For that reason, I… Read more »
Paul
Guest

You haven’t even taking the trial . What a joke that you even comment about it.

The best answer I can give you , Try it out yourself. Then you will qualify for comment.

dtchurn
Guest

Emmett or Reina was in the room for 50 hours. He never saw a trade on a dom, just vague talk about going long or short. And it looked like vague sim talk. Earlier review at: https://tradingschools.org/reviews/night-scalper-trading-room/

Paul
Guest
@ dtchurn, You are referring to Emmett’s first review which Emmett apologized for. Here it is. Emmett Moore1 year 5 months ago “Well I certainly owe Bill an apology. My original review was scathing and I really went after him. But he stepped up and shut my big mouth down, and put me in my place. Which I am very happy about It is so nice, and an incredible rarity when a trading room vendor steps up and proves that he actually does trade. And trade successfully”. Perhaps Emmet should do another follow up. I’m very happy learning the nuances… Read more »
Rob B
Guest

Yet once again you lost money. At some point you become unbelievable.

If Bill is doing so good, instead of providing no evidence, take his trades and shut us all up showing those amazing profits you are making.

Short of that you sound like a shill to me.

Stray Dog
Guest

A desperate shill at that, trying to get a lousy $70 from a few people so he can keep the lights on and the wolves away from the door.

Paul/Bill, If I had a trading room and I was making money hand over fist you can bet my brokerage statements would be on display. I would need any more marketing than that.

Paul
Guest

If you haven’t done the trial, or don’t intend doing the trial , What are you doing here?

Lousy $70. Is too much to find out for yourself?

Hilarious. Just shows the type of person this site attracts.

You should do your own home work instead of looking outside for the answers.

Stray Dog
Guest

Paul, my homework includes asking whether a trading room provider displays results. WhatchHimTrade and B12 Trader do. The good, the bad and the ugly are available for anyone to review so they can do their homework. Bill doesn’t display his results. Why not? I ask myself. Because he can’t trade I answer. I will avoid him and his room and I strongly suggest everyone else should too. Homework complete.

Paul
Guest

Rob,

You go on and on and on about the same shit. You admitted you didn’t follow Bills trades, yet you know everything about his room and trading.

What a joke you are. Makes me laugh.

Just do a trial? Or are you to busted ass to do one, That why you are here trolling and posting for free.

Whatever anyone says to you goes in one ear and out the other because nothing is blocking traffic.

Paul
Guest

RoB.

Why don’t you take your own advice as stated here by you.

“The problem is Bill traded at night so it was not really practical for me so I can not comment”.

Rob B
Guest
Paul, You must be really dense. First I did take the trial and I told my experience. And as I detailed in those post the traders at that site during the day where a complete joke. And I really questioned Bill’s ability to trade when he would hire others to be on mic who clearly were running a con. But my post to you where not about Bill, but about your posts. At first I just politely asked you to clarify your post, but when you just got angry instead of simple providing any type of intelligent response, I knew… Read more »
Paul
Guest

You are welcome to your bias opinion. The funny thing is you state many times you never followed bills trades. So how can you form any type of opinion. Very weird to me.

Paul
Guest

Just do the trial. You stated you never followed Bills trades but have plenty of advice about them. What a joke.

By the way, I watched WC Roy trade today and nailed 3 point trade with a 1 point stop. Awesome trading, , Bill also nailed a 2 point trade today that has moved 3 points, He closed at 2 points. Exceptional live trading.

Rob B
Guest
“You stated you never followed Bills trades but have plenty of advice about them” Actually I provided no advice about Bill’s trades. It was your post that I commented about. But I did watch both those Roy’s trade and the fact you are bragging about their trading tells me your a shill as I did see them trade. Nothing but murky calls and claiming profits no matter what. I saw their stops taken out but yet they did not get stopped out. Even Emmett stated the other moderators were clowns, yet you now defend them. Give me a break. There… Read more »
Paul
Guest
Should give up on replying with chapter long explanations why you can’t trade. We know already. “If customers were to follow these moderators, then they would lose…BIG TIME” Which moderators are you referring too? Roy and Bill trade very well. Its been stated here by many other posters other than the obvious. Yet you refuse to acknowledge anything positive and fabricate a world of suspicion and doubt.. Why is that Rob? After your criticism of Bill and everyone else, Are you just too ashamed to admit it.? Sometimes we all have to eat humble pie, even you Rob.. Remember you… Read more »
Rob B
Guest
You must have some serious mental problems. You can not even comprehend my post. Instead you just throw out whatever you want to say. You are clearly a shill. I will respond, but I am not sure what the point is as you clearly do not even read my response based on you sill post. “Should give up on replying with chapter long explanations why you can’t trade. We know already.” I already have offered to show my brokerage statement proving I trade profitable, I dare you to do the same. ““If customers were to follow these moderators, then they… Read more »
Paul
Guest

Put up your brokerage statements then.

WC Roy: I am done for the day guys… that makes + 22 points positive for my calls this week

Rob B
Guest
You have now clearly beyond a shadow of a doubt shown you are nothing but a low life scum shill. I am more than happy to show my statement to Emmett as I have previously posted, as long as I get a thread where I can state the truth about trading .vs the lies people like you keep spreading. Is your new plan to just come on here and just say how you are making money hands over fist with no proof. So which one of the con artist moderators are you. Are you WC Roy? As far as ranting.… Read more »
Paul
Guest

OMG, Another ranting chapter. What’s this one called . Rob Ber tries to justify himself again?

Rob B
Guest
I can have a more intelligent conversation with my cat than with you. http://screencast.com/t/A4fbu1Jttp Is there a non shill person out there that I can have a more intelligent conversation with. I really do not to get a life instead of fighting with TR promoters like this, who show no proof and just talk about a single trade here and there. I would have to imagine that even Paul must realize his post are non sense. But I guess the site is desperate for new suckers as all the member keep quitting. I wonder why that is. I guess they… Read more »
Alex
Guest

Lol Rob…. You are out here giving everyone hell! Don’t you have something better to do with your time? You seem like an awefully bitter man. I hope that someday you won;t be so cold. And to Paul, I have no idea who you are, but if you are a TR and have taken people’s money with false promises, Rob is right and you are scummy. Don’t get me wrong, Rob hates me too even though I have not taken a dime from anyone, but he, on occasion, has merit in his words. Have a good one!

Rob B
Guest

Only bitter against TR operators Alex. But who knows maybe you will be that unicorn

dtchurn
Guest

I agree RobB after seeing this exchange. “Paul” is a shill, probably one of the moderators themselves or a friend or family. That’s how all these sham tr operate. From what you described, no DOM, vague calls, it’s actually pretty generic newb bait. I’m sure there are thousands who appreciate your posts among others who don’t let these review comment threads turn into investiscamma vendor blogs.

Paul
Guest

@dickurn,

So you’ve been in the room?

Paul
Guest

Too many lemons. Anyway Rob you have already admitted you didn’t follow Bills calls,

ROB quote

” In fairness I have not really followed Bill’s night calls”

Best we just leave it at that.

Rob B
Guest
As I said on numerous times I never followed Bill’s call, but I did follow and watch both the Roy’s trade. And it was obvious neither of them were trading live or sim. They made nonsense calls and claimed winners no matter what the trade did even when it blew past their stop points. It was obviously a joke and yet you come here and defend it. That screams shill. Plus you come here and start talking about a single trade here and there he made, which is totally meaningless. Seriously I dare you to take 3 months of Roy’s… Read more »
Paul
Guest
It’s a good thing you are not printing these responses. (maybe you are) Cost a fortune in ink By the way there are people still in the TR who have posted here over 1yr ago. And are not only happy with the trades , but have become very good traders themselves. Unless you are in the TR yourself and experience the trade calls live you will never know. I won’t be suckered into anything, But I was always state the truth as I experience it. Whether you believe it or not. What’s your profession Rob? I guess a burnt out… Read more »
Rob B
Guest
Man, You are a complete idiot. First as I have said on many occasions I am a full time investor which includes trading. “I won’t be suckered into anything, ” Suckered into actually making the trades this TR calls. Give me a break. “Unless you are in the TR yourself and experience the trade calls live you will never know.” Seriously can you not even read. I was in the TR and I have commented these clowns did not trade live or sim. Which part of that can you not understand. It is clear you do not even read my… Read more »
Paul
Guest

@Rob. Chapter 101

You’re the joke.

Now your extreme paranoid state of mind is totally out of control. OMG. Too much coke,meth or whatever.

So now the people in the TR who post here are false long term members???? LMAO, Perhaps they are aliens, Isis, or most likely the Russians.

Here’s a link where you can get some help.

http://psychcentral.com/disorders/paranoid-personality-disorder-treatment/

Rob B
Guest
Wow, It is clear to anyone with an IQ above 70 you are either a shill or completely void of reality. You now are posting nonsense everywhere. Your post are not even in response to my post, but just rambling nonsense. I post to warn people of these con artist trading rooms. If you are a shill there is nothing I can do to help you and if you are in fantasy land where you haven even taken a live trade, yet convinced these moderators are your answer, here is all I can say. Keep wasting your money and time… Read more »
Paul
Guest

Not at all interested in reading your insane unsubstantiated, bias , negative responses.

I’m not the only one here who has pointed outyour pessimistic personality.

Just by the length you go to in your responses points directly to some type of severe personality disorder. You have a need to always be right , you are always trying to pull others down in order to make yourself look and feel better.

Seriously Rob, get some help. Crooked Hillary really nailed it.

Rob B
Guest
You do not even read my post. You point out no facts, just promotional nonsense. Here is the bottom line I my post have been about showing proof of your nonsense claims. Your post have been about promotional nonsense and just blasted me without making any type of intelligent response to the actual facts I point out. I think most rational people can decide for themselves. I can not wait for that apology when you finally if you ever make a live trade and quickly learn making nonsense calls like those moderators make and trading a real account with actual… Read more »
Paul
Guest

I would just be repeating myself to keep replying to you. Definition of insanity.

A Einstein .

doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

This is exactly what you are doing Rob. Get some help.

Rob B
Guest
Paul, I actually feel a bit sorry for you. It is obvious your TR is losing money as all its subscribers quit and you are desperate to post nonsense promotional stuff here. I get it. You can not make your mortgage payment. But get a real job and quit ripping people off. It will make you feel better. And as long as you post promotional crap with out an ounce of proof to back it up, I will call it out. Maybe I will start calling you Mongo Jr. You post now have gone from promotional stuff to just silly… Read more »
Paul
Guest

Correction.

I will always state the truth as I experience it.

Paul
Guest

Alex, I never taken anyones money nor do i ever wish too. I’m in this TR for the second month and seeing the trades from Bill and WC Roy, plus explanations is very refreshing, In fact its helped my own trading immensely. Prior to this room I’ve been trying to trade too many products. Now i’m more focused and am totally enjoying it,

If you are in the room, you see the trades hear the explanations. Something the charlatans on this site will never know.

dtchurn
Guest

I don’t need to be in the room you scum shill “Paul” RobB already described he saw no proof and the same sham pretend trading as typical of most scam rooms. Go back to moderate your cesspool room.

Paul
Guest

In that case your opinion mean a big fat ZERO. Never been in the room, but has a huge opinion about it…LMAO..

dtchurn
Guest

I’ve been around the block in various rooms. I don’t need to see your room and neither anyone else after at least two testimonials of dubious sham trading. My opinion and Rob’s will save many from wasting time and a “lousy” 70 bucks or worse if they heed it.

Paul
Guest

@Dikhurn,

This is you in a nutshell.

I know everything about climbing Everest, I tell people how to do it, what not to do, what to do. BUT YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN THERE.

Rob B
Guest
Paul. Here is the bottom line. I have have intelligent conversation with who are unaffiliated with a TR. You do not post or respond like someone that is unaffiliated. For all those who do not want to read all our post, this started when Paul started posting promotional ad for this TR and posted things like WC Roy just had a trade good for 10 ticks. My first thought was did he have 5 other trades that lost 100 ticks. So I asked for some basic stats. Now I knew the answer as I have been to that room. Is… Read more »
Paul
Guest

Here is my offer.

I’ll open another live account . Segregate 5k into that account. Trading Tradersden signals and my own. If you put 5k into a live account and you can trade whatever you want.

Am willing to give Emmett 3rd party access to the account.

After 1 ,2 or 3 months, whatever suits you the winner takes the other person’s winnings as a prize.

Thats putting your money where your mouth is.

Rob B
Guest
I have already offered to show Emmett my brokerage statement. For a contest the rules would have to be clearly setup and then the money would have to be under someone else trust. I sure as heck do not trust you to hand me over money. Sometimes I wonder if you even read my post. I say you can not take the trades the non Bill moderators take and be profitable. I have no clue how you will trade in that account. You might just put it all in CDs. So again contest rules would have to be setup. But… Read more »
Stray Dog
Guest

Paul, I think you are missing Rob B’s point. He’s asked for stats on the TradersDen calls and brokerage statements to prove profitability. What you achieve with a mixture of TradersDen calls and your own is irrelevant to proving that TradersDen is a profitable service worth subscribing to.

Paul
Guest

Didn’t you read the Einstein post?

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

You are so pathetic. Your rants are not even worth responding to.

Cyn
Guest
Paul, you can safely ignore Rob B. He is just a bitter, negative person who is full of shit because he got swindled a few times by different TR operators. We know that you are so saintly that you cannot possibly tell a lie. You were even mistaken when you said that you followed the calls but did not make any money, even though Bill did. Of course, you actually did make money. After all, you took the $70 trial, and by your lights, that is all that is needed to succeed at making money trading. Would you kindly bless… Read more »
Rob B
Guest

How could you forget toothless and overweight. Get it right next time to do be proper justice. LOL

http://screencast.com/t/MPmcazXYeUpz

But on a serious note, Cyn, I did not realize Paul spent an entire $17 and a whole month under Trader’s Den Tutelage. Jeez I see the light now. Thank you. Time for me to make my Donald Trump Apology and blame it on Bill Clinton.

Paul
Guest

Take the challenge.

Rob B
Guest
Paul, I have no problem with a challenge, but my issue is not with your trading, but except for Bill those other moderator’s do not trade live or even sim. They just make non sense trading calls. Sadly, I can not do a challenge with “Paul’s Rules”. The rules you have set up are not my trading rules. Based on your previous comments it sounds like you never trade profitable and somehow after 1 month in Bill’s room you think you are now a trading superstar. That is fine. But I have a feeling you are in fantasy land and… Read more »
Paul
Guest

Its the second time I have challenged you to a trade off, and its the second time you’ve made the same excuses and proceed as if you are some big wig trader….

Give me your rules and lets get serious.

Rob B
Guest
“big wig trader” You truly have to be mentally unstable. I have on many occasions, separate from my post to you, talked about my trading and returns. If anything I have stated I am 180 degrees the opposite of the TR that claim to be big wig traders. I know my trading stats and have reported that if I do 25% return I am doing cartwheels. Rules. My account is already set up that I trade. I can show my Emmett my brokerage statements. I do not need to setup some $5,000 account. Will this be the 1st trade you… Read more »
Stray Dog
Guest

Cyn, do I detect a hint of sarcasm in your post?

Cyn
Guest

No comment!

dtchurn
Guest
“I know everything about climbing Everest, I tell people how to do it, what not to do, what to do. BUT YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN THERE.” What a crock. The same thing can be said for 99% of scam vendor sites and rooms that have failed trading and started a room. The few that the CFTC has bothered to investigate show they hadn’t bothered with a live account sometimes for years just as I suspected. Emmett apologized to this vendor in particular, but he has been fooled before. Looks like nothing has changed with the way they do the trading… Read more »
Paul
Guest

@dickhurn,

You poor bastard. you have the disease as well.

Rob B
Guest

When did common sense become a disease. Oh Yea! In Paul’s fantasy world of trading. I get it now.

dtchurn
Guest

I think ‘Paul’shittyshill is one of the staff of traders den RobB. I’ve seen his kind of wording before. Another majormoronMongo.Still pushing 70 lousy bucks on others who are reading these comments. They still can get a monthly churn if 200 people get duped to their useless sales webinars for 70 bucks a pop each. That tells you right there ‘Paul’ isn’t some “student” of the room.

Rob B
Guest

I have had conversation with many member of TR and unaffiliated members do not post like Paul. Going on about ROY making 10 ticks on that trade and the like. And then when I ask for some actual stats about those moderators he gets all upset, which of course gets me all rawled up.

So to relax it is now time to watch what I am sure will be sweat kind debate. LOL!!!!

dtchurn
Guest

I hear you RobB. It just goes on again as seen in other forums and investiscamma with bs about how someone just “started trying” a new room. The “statements” don’t show up in the link anymore. Probably worried about the CFTC seeing public doctored ‘statements’ since the two vindications of the proof of sham trading of SoT. I’m sure the shill expects newbs to chalk up 70 bucks and realize it was a sham then quietly leave which is most former members duped by rooms for a profitable monthly churn of no live trading.

Cyn
Guest

His argument is very simple. Pay him $70 before you can comment on his nonsensical fantasy trading.

Am I the only moron who does not get why I have to give him $70, or I am not allowed to comment on his fantasies?

dtchurn
Guest

You’re the one with the disease thinking sim or sham trading is real. The CFTC have already proved these scam vendors typical stop trading live for years. Anyone else with common sense isn’t going to spend a lousy 70 bucks just for an ad webinar. But then again, I think you’re just a shill, probably one of the moderators in your cesspool room. I expect Emmett will eventually find out he was hoodwinked again by traders den in the future.

Paul
Guest

@Dickhurn,

What?

Rob B
Guest

Man, Paul you prove your self to be lower than whale shit. What else can I say. I cannot wait to see those brokerage statement from you in a month. Somehow I doubt that will ever happen.

How in the world could any rational person disagree with dtchurn. You point out nothing wrong with his statements, but just post constant nonsense.

Go Mongo Jr Paul.

Paul
Guest

what?

Rob B
Guest

Whos on 3rd.

dtchurn
Guest

@shillyshit’Paul’

Paul
Guest

@ Rob Ber & Dikchurn

http://www.alternet.org/personal-health/14-habits-highly-miserable-people

from Crooked Hillary post.

Good ol Trumpy smashed Clinton today.

Rob B
Guest

As usual more fact free post from Silly Paul. You post everything but what the real topic of this thread is.

Still waiting for you to start trading the Trader’s Den method and show how you are hitting it out of the park. Or show any evidence any of those clown moderators (except for Bill who I know nothing about) can trade profitable. But you ever will. Just more nonsense post.

Paul
Guest

The worst thing about posting nonsense brings me down to your level.

Thought you could have figured that out, but since it was well over your head I have had to tell you.

Rob B
Guest

Then stop posting nonsense and intelligent respond to my original questions. What evidence do you have any of the Roys or other moderators trade live or sim. Provide detailed facts instead of avoiding the issue again and again.

Paul
Guest

Go and have a big cry. You’re the one making all these statements about statements which implies you are the fraud. And a damaged one at that.

You openly admit you never followed Bill trades. What a clown.

Rob B
Guest

Silly Silly Paul, on and on with the nonsense and never a drop of proof that the Roys you sited ever traded live. At some point any normal human being would wake up and get it. But then again I forgot you are shill for the room.

You keep posting your nonsense and I will keep asking you for any proof of your claims about this room.

And so it will go on and on.

Paul
Guest

This will make you happy, one of the moderators lost 10 ticks on two trades last night. Whoopee.

You should show proof you aren’t posting from some mental asylum.

The funny thing is Emmett has done an extremely positive reviews on Tradersden24. Yet you don’t even believe what Emmett wrote. So are you calling Emmett a shill as well?

I came here to share my experience, positive or negative, Its been positive, what wrong with that???., You just can’t handle anything remotely positive.

No wonder your daughter moved to Melbourne.as far from Florida as she could get..

Rob B
Guest
First, when I think you can not be any dumber you even surprise me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melbourne,_Florida Second, Emmett also stated these moderators except for Bill were clowns. Third posting one of these clowns lost 10 ticks is the same as you posting they made 10 ticks. 1 trade stats do not make. I watched these clown trade. It was joke. No chart trader, no DOM, just nonsense trade calls. Nothing ever traded live. Anyone can make nonsense calls. Putting real money with real stop losses and real targets is not the same. Someday you will understand that. Please go trade a… Read more »
Stray Dog
Guest

Crikey cobber, I think he means Melbourne, Australia.

Rob B
Guest
Yes he did not even know Melbourne was also a city in Florida even though I mentioned she was being effected by Hurricane Mathew. So he must of thought that Hurricane hit Australia also. As for Paul, I will add regarding Bill the self proclaimed profitable trader. I do question anyone that would hire a bunch of clowns to make trade calls that clearly are not trading live. Also I think anyone would have a hard time following Bill’s trade. He trades ES overnight and is not even on the Mic 95% of the time so just dead silence. As… Read more »
Paul
Guest

I wonder if Emmet could put a sub-forum here for you Rob.

Instead of Trading Schools , it could be called Trading Kindergarten. You may even find someone to wipe your ass and the dribble from your chin.

Rob B
Guest

More Silly Post Paul. Everything to misdirect away from the scam Trader’s Den TR is. Should this be day 2 of our competition. How is Trading the Trader’s Den method going for you so far.

Paul
Guest

LOL, BILL calls 2 live trade in the room.. Sell 2159- 60 and then sell 2157. Markets falls approx 40 points. Low as of writing 2122

The best thing about Bill most of the time he puts you on the right side of the market.

Rob B
Guest

Man you will never get it. One trade call means nothing, assume this was even a trade call being he trades overnight.

How about a Real Track Record based on Real Live Trades. Are you ever going to show any proof what so ever.

You keep of shilling away though, I am sure you will sucker someone out of money to make your car payment.

Paul
Guest

All I’m doing is relaying my experience in the trade TR, If you can’t handle it Go whinge somewhere else. The whole website is sick of your negativity.

And I know your response will be where are the live broker statements blah blah blah. Where are yours?

WC Roy calls long ES @ 2125 about 1 hour ago, And moves higher 10 points higher.

WCroy is doing that while your are sitting here typing BS, . What a joke.

Rob B
Guest
People including me are sick of your constant nonsense shilling. As long as you continue to post BS trade calls with no proof what so ever and refuse to even take a single live trade I will continue to replay to your nonsense shilling. “And I know your response will be where are the live broker statements blah blah blah. Where are yours?” What you are a moron or the slowest person on the planet. Genuine Brokerage statements are the only thing that mean anything. Everything else is smoke and mirrors. The fact that you do not see that tells… Read more »
Sifu
Guest

Rob

I’m a member of Tradersden and have never read so much garbage. Every criticism you have is unfounded. You admit this yourself.

The negativity you portray is not only an indictment upon yourself, but is outright lies. If you can not trade that does not give you the right to insult and disrespect others. If you are unable to show respect and sincerity, then why should others respect you and all your innuendo.

You need to grow up and get a life.

Rob B
Guest
Sifu What exactly are you a master of? Posting nonsense? I repeatedly say the same thing over and over again and that is get proof that a TR operator can trade profitably. As I stated I went to this room and everyone of the so called traders I watched were a joke. Remember I did not follow Bill for the reasons given in prior post. Emmett has also stated the same about the other moderators. I am sure you are a mindless shill, so having an intelligent conversation will be impossible. But, you say my criticism is unfounded. Can you… Read more »
Paul
Guest

Great comment. Robs always going to show the negatives. Even if he won lotto. Major personality flaw he carries.

Stray Dog
Guest

When did it become a major personality flaw to point out that genuine proof in the form of brokerage statements etc. from Trading Rooms is a reasonable expectation and minimum standard?

Paul
Guest

I actually like Rob. He’s enlightened me to how positive I actually am.

Rob B
Guest

I think you meant to say, “How foolish I was to thinking I could come here and promote without showing a lick of evidence of my claims and get a bunch of suckers to join this room”.

Man Shill Paul is like a weed, never dies.

Paul
Guest

I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and crap out a smarter comeback than what you just said.

Stray Dog
Guest

The last retort of the shill, personal insults.

Paul
Guest

Bill calls another 10 point trade and Roy 6 point.

Another new person in the room comments that they are +$1000 in the last month on the trial, Not bad for $60 investment

Get Emmett to review Traderden24 statements since he has access.

Stray Dog
Guest

Well the logical question is why aren’t trader’s den providing authenticated brokerage statements? Why aren’t the subscribers? Why aren’t you?

Paul
Guest

The logical question is. Have you been in this TR?

Why don’t you post your statements? Bills posted his and that should be enough. Even your trainer Emmett commented the results were good and authentic. All you have to do is follow the signals, Something Dogs do very well, Follow. Perhaps you can not follow thats why you have become a Troll.

Stray Dog
Guest

Geeze Paul, how many different ways can Rob and I say it? If you want to make claims of profitability then prove those claims.

Paul
Guest

Can’t you answer a simple question?

Have you been in the room?

You guys should join Stage5 broking and get some lessons from FT71.

Rob B
Guest

I am becoming convinced you are not just a shill, but a mindless shill. I have already responded to all the questions you asked above including the fact that I tried this room, so you know the answer already.

Which only leaves the fact you are a shill who just keeps promoting.

GemBow
Guest

“The logical question is. Have you been in this TR?”

No, it isn’t all a question, must less a logical one. Nobody cares who’s been in what room. What’s relevant is real trading results in a real account, not empty claims by you and your ilk.

Paul
Guest
How can you comment on something you have not experienced. As Emmett said , the results are very good…leave it at that.. I realise that 98% of people trading are burnt out damaged goods who have been scammed more than once. And i support Emmett for his stance on scam traders, however there is also another side which must be mentioned and that is there are some , though few and far between decent people within the trading community, However you won’t find them on this site. I have already offered to share my results , if other people here… Read more »
GemBow
Guest

“How can you comment on something you have not experienced.”

It’s easy to comment on someone who makes (bogus) claims without evidence to support them.

Rob B
Guest
Scammer Paul, At it again. Just posting promotional nonsense stuff without a lick of proof. I watched Roy trade and for any 6 point he made in his imaginary world anyone following would lose their shirt if they actual took the trade live. But you can always prove me wrong. Being you keep posting they are knocking it out of the park again and again, why the hell don’t you actually take a live trade and show some proof of your claims. You are lucky this is not my site. If it was I would allow 1 maybe if I… Read more »
Paul
Guest

Join the room and you will see plenty of live trades. Oh your can’t because you have NO MONEY. Its all been ripped off by scam rooms, How stupid are you…. But i still like you. :0

Paul
Guest

I love you to Rob, you are just so AWESOME. You make be feel so positive.. Thanks again.

Paul
Guest

Bill calls another sell on ES today 2134-35, currently . My entry was 33.75 currently 31.75 sold 1 at 32, hold one at stop 33.25

27/10/16

Rob B
Guest

Another promotional post brought to you by Scammer Paul. Again where the beef?????? In case you do not understand that Paul, where is any proof what so ever of your claims.

Even a mindless shill must realize calling out a single made up trade is beyond ridiculous. Where is the track record???

Paul
Guest

My track record is in the same place as yours. Hidden from scammers on this sight. As I said. Emmett has access to Bills, so get his.

Paul
Guest

WOW, that was a great trade. went all the way to 2123 zone.

Rob B
Guest
Another nonsense promotional claim by Scammer Paul. The part that is amazing is how this industry is so corrupt you actually think posting claims with no prove is acceptable. If a mutual fund did this they would be lock up. As far as your other comments, as I have stated I am more than willing to show my brokerage account live to Emmett and have offered to do so on many occasions. You on the other hand said you were going to start trading those nonsense trading calls live and yet have not and have not offered to show any… Read more »
Paul
Guest

You’re just amazing Rob. We all care about you. Its not that bad.

Maybe have a wee chat with Crooked Hillary. He may be able to help.

Takecare Bubby

Rob B
Guest

Well, at least it is not another 99% fact free promotional post by Scammer Paul.

BTW I doubt any scammer cares about me or anyone else that calls them out on their scams.

Paul
Guest

Thanks mate, thats the nicest thing you have ever said bro.

Pleased you took my advice and had a wee chat with Crooked Hillary. Well done , You are so clever.

Stray Dog
Guest

So far from Paul we’ve had numerous unsubstantiated claims of profitable trading, personal insults, displays of ignorance and now we’re witnessing belligerent stupidity but no brokerage statements. Why? Because there’s no profitable trading to back up the claims. If there were you can bet they’re have been produced by now.

Rob B
Guest
Seriously I could have a smarter conversation with a cock roach. I am not trying to have a witty comeback. My point is always the same. Get proof of the TR operator or shill like Paul before you invest a dime in their TR. You just post nonsense on top of nonsense. In fact you post everything but the one thing that matter and that is a single once of proof of your claims. Heck you said you were going to start trading a live account a couple of weeks ago. How is that going. Got any proof of your… Read more »
Stray Dog
Guest

Well you are dealing with someone who didn’t know that there were two cities called Melbourne. I wonder if he know there are two places called Paris?

Paul
Guest

Least I’m not posting all over internet forums using an alias, Shows how staunch you are..cough cough.

So there is only two cities globally named Melbourne, What about,

Melbourne Derbyshire,, Melbourne Yorkshire, Melbourne Cambridgeshire, Melbourne Arkansa, Melbourne Kentucky, Melbourne Iowa.

Of Course you new all that. You are so clever. Must make your mom so proud. Clever boy, he’s a bone.

Just proves how inept you are.

You need to join the TR. Make some money, it may get you off the streets and away from the other Feral Dogs.

Stray Dog
Guest

Excellent job Paul you’ve figured out how to use Google search all by yourself. Now when you’ve mastered the print function on your computer and learned how to scan documents we can see your verified trading results.

Paul
Guest

Can’t believe there’s a Melbourne in Florida. Must be a Florida in Melbourne tooo. LOL

Paul
Guest

Make a list of 20 things you dislike and see how many times you can insert them into a conversation over the course of the day. For best results, dislike things you’ve never given yourself a chance to like.

Kramnor
Guest
This is my general opinion. I am not trying to persuade you or get into a discussion. i see traders like Rob B have been scorched and want to at least reach out and let you know that this trade room will not hurt you. They don’t up-sell or ask for any more money than the monthly fee. It may not be your style or make the money you want, but for $147 a month I feel the education is worth it. E.g. John’s option strategy. I have been in the room for a few months and have likes and… Read more »
Paul
Guest

Nice comment. Am surprised that the negative crew haven’t attacked it.

Eddie
Guest

Hello Kramnor,

I’m very interested in joining and would like to know what Bill’s track record($%) has been recently as this article is old. He seems like a good old country guy and appears honest without all the guru hype. If you or anyone else can answer that I would truly appreciate it.

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