Investors Underground ***Update***

Thanks for reading today’s brief update of Investors Underground.

I have been highly critical of Nathan Michaud and his live, stocks day trading room. You can read my original review of Investors Underground here. Investors Underground, when analysed using Google search patterns and estimated volume of traffic, is one of the most popular live, stocks day trading rooms on the internet. The hustle has its roots planted in Timothy Sykes Investimonial’s website, where Nathan has massive number of fake positive reviews.

My original review was a pretty scathing hit piece on Nathan Michaud as well as some of the moderators within Nathan’s live trading room. The core complaint was that there is simply no transparency within Nathan’s live trading room. It is primarily a social hub, where people gather and simply chat about stocks. Nathan has no track record, nor does he trade live. Nor do any of his moderators have any track record, and there is no way to track the performance of any of the trading moderators. Truthfully, I consider the vast majority of trading educators to be low level criminals with plenty of bark, but little bite. Now that I have gotten that little it of entertainment out of the way, lets talk a moment about Investors Underground and if things have changed since my original review.

In the past month, yet another subscriber of Investors Underground sent me an email asking that I take another look at this company. And so I did. From August 11 through August 13, I spent an additional three days in the Investors Underground chat room. What did I find? Well, nothing has changed. Its the same old story. Plenty of newbies chatting, but absolutely no clearly defined trading signals from any of the trading room moderators. Once again, I asked for specifics of any trades that were called by the moderators, and yet again I was simply ignored. However, the best that I was offered were the chat logs of everyone that conversed within this highly popular, and expertly marketed trading room. The closer that I attempted to penetrate the cloud of chatter, the more misdirection that was deployed.

Truthfully, I was hoping that my highly negative review would of spurred some positive change. I can be quite the troll and be downright nasty to some of these trading vendors. With Nathan, in particular, my attack was vicious and I really went after him. However, he has flat refused to engage with me on a personal level. The only time I am able to have any sort of conversation with Nathan is when I change my identity and act like a fresh lamb ready for his marketing slaughter. Disappointing. It appears that he is only willing to lash out at me through proxy…getting Erik Wood to call me at all hours of the night and scream at me over the phone. Poor Eric Wood, being used like a puppet by Nathan, and he doesn’t even realize it. Oh well.

From time to time, I do receive feedback via email or blog post from current subscribers of Investors Underground. Today, I received one such blog post. The message was from a current subscriber, that took the time to write out their individual experiences inside of the trading room. His/Her review is pretty gentle, but I feel like the writer did a great job of highlighting their own person experience. I would like to wrap up this quick review with the content that was sent to me, referencing their personal experience inside of the Investors Underground live day trading room.

This review is my honest and scrutinized opinion.,unbiased .I was a member of IU for 2 months .I am trading about 2 years now .Cant say very successful But consistent .I have tried different newsletters – like Tim’s Penny silver . i heard a lot about IU so thought to give a try .Then i joined and was there for 2 months .

First of all , $197 p/m for IU standard is pricey .Their aim to advertise to make this community for both new traders and experience traders .so most of the traders (newbie) who takes good amount of time to be make money ,$197 a month is definitely expensive for them also if you add software fees , L2 ,brokers fess etc.

Secondly there are no alert from nate and other moderators .I know alert service is not good to be blindly followed but it is definitely helpful to understand the trade plan to be educated and to support ( from a pro trader) your trade idea on a particular stock ( if you already have before alert)

It is for sure that IU is a great community for all pro traders But most of them (95 % ) do not participate any ideas ,discussion , watch list ,trade plan in the chatroom . Which is more annoying is that most of them do not response to you if you ask some trade related questions or any other kind of advise You feel like a dickhead and left alone! They are already successful so why they have to care about you !They will discussing ideas among good friends – Nate,modern rock ,d4ytrad3,elkwood etc. But i assumed that as it is a paid chatroom ( specially $197 pm ) so I expected more than nate’s watchlist !

Thirdly you have to be very careful ( newbie ) when asking Q because IU love to Gag ppl .Most of the ppl in the chatroom do not ask nonsense questions but also for some funny reason IU moderator are very sensitive .It is rather a chatroom for elite pro traders with their alien discussion ( terms / phrase difficult to understand for new trader ) than a free discussion of trade plan which actually can be useful in a day trade making some real money than showing off who is more knowledgeable and smart !!!

Fourth Nate hardly trade stocks between $1 – $5 , Most of his trades based on over $10 – $100 ,which is not convenient for small accounts ( I think most of the start-up traders have small account )No one can grow a small account with a high price stock because most of your money involved in one high price stock trade !

Fifth Nate and other traders do not mention their entry exit , profit ,loss etc in the chatroom .So you are blindly following a GURU not knowing what is his activity .I think it is very important to get motivated if you know how is your Guru performing.

Overall it is a great community for Pro trader if you want to make friends , share trade ideas and praise among themselves But definitely confusing and not useful for New trader because I believe with learning curve someone need to make some money while trading otherwise it is like being smart ass with no real work.

I am sure Nate is a great person and trader I like him for his humble attitude But also he needs to understand to run a paid service ,services need to be actually there .That chat room need some changes like other available chartrooms – alert , trade plan ,low price stocks , giving priority to every paid members not only friends etc. Then I am sure it will the best chartrooms among others .

I hope Nate read this and do something about it .if changes comes I will be the first to join IU again .

I felt like this was a very friendly, forthright, and honest review of Investors Underground. My only caveat to this written review is that the reviewer was never actually able to verify that Nate and his moderators are ever actually trading. And so, from his perspective, he paid for the service for two month and spent $400 dollars in the hopes that he would be able to synthesize what the “profitable” moderators were teaching.  I would take this a step further and just come right out and state that I dont believe that Nathan Michaud is even trading. Rather, Nathans game is one of a professional marketer. Nathan probably understands with great clarity that he is probably only going to be able to heist these folks out of roughly two months of paying subscriptions, and perhaps the purchase of his DVD.

Well, that’s if for today. Thanks for reading.

 

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Mary
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Well today confirmed it for me. Walking away! Was ready to go all in with IU when they came out with their “referral program” on you tube with Cam and his annoying Aussy accent. Hey when IU is more interested in referrals, and they have gone to great lengths to create this program, then that confirms for me that they are not traders and I know I am in the wrong place. Moving on to more fortright and honest people. Bye Nate.

Alexander
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i was there for 2 months, everytime i asked nate something the reply would be (trade your plan), all i can see at the end is (well done guys , nice trade) never saw an entry nor an exit, even if he mentions, he never says it clearly i only talked to Elkwood and Crawfishpoboy, they were super nice and helpful. especially Elkwood, heck i thought he mistake me for one of his friends lol everything is fast in the room, a newbie, is really lost in there, watchlist is good mostly higher priced stocks for small accounts. plus 180… Read more »
Titans
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Emmet, hats off! Keep posting man, love it ❤️

Tom Crapstone
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Tom Crapstone

what about superman? it’s the same ‘conglomerate’

M Gordon
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Ask your self who in this day and age of technology where we have live video and voice feed would type in the chatroom and not use live voice chat to explain exactly what is he planing to do with stock before he does it!!! ? And why does he not have his entry and exits posted on screen all the time so we can clearly see when he is going in and out of the trade in real time!!! All this can be implemented in chatroom but is not ,ask your self why ??? Thank you Emmet to point… Read more »
John smith
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My suspicion on nathan and many other traders is that they have profitable broker statements, but they won’t share them because they don’t want anyone to figure out they are liquidating partial positions into their alerts. Those statements could get in the wrong hands should anyone ever subpoena this site.

JP
Guest

WOW!!! I was in there for a couple months and I know you are dead right!!! He most certainly does sell into alerts and this is the reason he wont publish any proof. This situation makes it so that his downside is protected very well. The suckers in his room are another story…. Remember, it’s all their fault (and really it is)…

jake
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thanks for the review. saved me from subscribing. i tried bullsonwallstreet. after the 2 week trial i cancelled. a nice guy, a pathetic day trader.

Woderer
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http://www.investorsunderground.com/another-wild-day-video-stats-chat-logs/

thats one of dozen things I have found. seems legit to me about alerting trades, explaining trade ideas etc…

LOL
Guest

Didn’t you go to jail for running a Ponzi scheme you crook.

Carey Harper
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Carey Harper
I am amazed at the negative feedback about Investors Underground. I’ve been a member for years (Grandfathered $99/month subscription) and I can say for a fact that he most definitely does post his entries and exits in real time. Nate verified his trades on profit.ly and simultaneously posted them on his Twitter account in the past. I will say that profit.ly is a legit verification platform because I have used it before. My only reservations about it are: it allows traders to “skew” resulting chart by letting traders erase bad trades and they require your brokerage accounts username and password… Read more »
Mike
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Extremely thankful I came across this website as I was first ready to buy Tim Skyes stuff. I used to be in internet marketing and Tim appears more like Frank Kern(master marketer) then an actual trader with ALL of his marketing so a little red flag went up. After digging some more and coming across this site it confirmed what appeared to be obvious. It’s just great marketing. After being disillusioned about Tim I was jumping over to IU and it’s looking like the same thing if not worse. Guys selling high ticket items and making a KILLING on marketing… Read more »
Reality
Guest

Before you buy into any of these scams, typical including, free videos, show off, then think this. What do most people do? What is my knowledge in this field? How easy could i be tricked to buy into an idea? Know your vulnerbilities! Stop lying to yourself

Hommie
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I wonder if any of the IU leaders is without criminal background.

Shawn
Guest
I’ve been a UI member for since 2012, Nate is the real deal, but honestly not the best educator out there; so if you are new to trading and need lots of hand holding, it may not be the best spot for you. There are plenty of experienced traders in the room that bring a lot of different skill sets. Some people are helpful, some not. Personally, I use the chat as a place for idea generation various people may alert different things and then you can decide to trade or not based on your plan, Probably around 90% of… Read more »
Stray Dog
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This may be old news but I saw this link posted in a chat room https://www.goodetrades.com/2012/01/penny-stock-trader-nate-michaud-settles-with-sec-in-pump-dump-case/ They’re a good company to stay away from

Joe
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Emmett, I have been following Nate, ModernRock, Eric Wood and the rest of his buddies on Twitter for over 2 years and have just recently become suspicious about Nate. I knew about his prior SEC run in, but I decided to google him and ran across your review. Amazing, I knew I wasn’t crazy. You know as a new trader you just are not able to pick up on certain things, and you feel like this guy is always on the right side of the trade. I am not in the IU chatroom, just simply talking about his Twitter feed(which… Read more »
Ned Jenkins
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Ned Jenkins

So there is not clear cut signals for Nathan’s trades going out? Seriously?

he’s not clearly communicating his trade plan prior to actual trading and his entries/exits as the trades progress?

Daaaas
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by the way i was subscriber at IU also and i can confirm that there are no trade alerts at all (meaning exact entry, exact posision size and exact sl). just long XZY and at the end of the day(or sooner after trade) he will tell you that he was scalping it, sizing in and out, short and long, taking some off into washes and with this “alerting” he can make himself profitable with every trade… I dont follow trades of others but he should start alerting a little bit more transparent, because this looks shady as ****. He can… Read more »
Jacques
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Sure…. let’s all listen to the guy with the blog bashing every trading program out there. IT IS OBVIOUS this guy is a gun for hire. Best reviews go to the firm that puts money in his pocket. That’s why he has this BLOG!! wake up people! .. The truth is the best review can only be done by YOU and trying some decent programs, and there are some decent ones out there. Read read read trading books from well known professional legends, they are not hard to find and you’ll be able to sniff out a scam right away… Read more »
Stray Dog
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@Jacques I am nominating you for the “Long Winded Nonsense Post” of the month award. How does anything you’ve written relate to or refute Emmett’s review of Investors Underground? You start by attacking Emmett and then attack trading gurus which must include Investors Underground. Did you have fight with the girl friend or something? Save us all some time next time and go go straight to kicking the cat.

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