Online Trading Academy. Yes, its a FRAUD.

The United States Federal Trade Commission has finally exploded the Online Trading Academy.

On February 12, 2020, the FTC filed a massive 8000+ page lawsuit alleging that the Online Trading Academy ripped off thousands of consumers for a total of $370 million dollars, since at least 2014.

However, the alleged fraud is likely much larger and probably closer to $670 million dollars. According to a source that contacted TradingSchools.Org, the organization was not charged with the full amount because the statute of limitations only covered the prior 6 years.

The lawsuit filed in the Southern District of California is an absolute nightmare and essentially describes what amounts to a highly refined and well-orchestrated financial slaughterhouse where primarily elderly consumers were fleeced of their life savings.

Additionally, on February 25, the FTC was able to successfully obtain a Temporary Restraining Order and was able to freeze the personal and corporate assets of the company founders: Eyal Shachar and Sam Seiden.

Eyah Shahar of Online Trading Academy
Eyal Shachar of Online Trading Academy. A conman without compare.

As it currently stands, the fraudulent company is essentially on life support and making a last-ditch, “bet the company” legal strategy to fight the Federal Trade Commission in Federal Court.

Good luck with that.

The TradingSchools.Org Investigation

Since early 2019, TradingSchools.Org began to receive a steady stream of information from former company salespeople describing that a nascent investigation had commenced at the Federal Trade Commission.

We began to receive a tremendous amount of information that could have only come from someone working on the inside.

All the while, hundreds of consumers have requested that TradingSchools.Org write a review about Online Trading Academy. However, with the pending FTC investigation, we felt it best to wait until all the facts came out, and more witnesses were willing to come forward.

The Online Trading Academy is highly litigious. A search of state and federal court record databases reveals that they will sue pretty much anyone that negatively speaks or writes about them.

These lawsuits include suing and or threatening to sue the very people that they have ripped off. Their legal strategy has been to “spend whatever it takes” to keep the truth from coming out.

Finally, the FTC has taken bold action. It is good to know that the assets of the company founders have been frozen, and are pending the outcome of a trial in Federal Court.

In the following paragraphs, I would like to give a highly truncated version of events. Considering that the lawsuit is over 8000 pages long, there is way too much ground to cover. The following is short, sweet, and not perfectly accurate. Many witnesses were not willing to use their real names for fear of yet more legal reprisal.

The people running this company are very ugly.

Online Trading Academy: What, where, and how much?

The headquarters of the Online Trading Academy is located in Irvine, California.

However, there are also dozens of franchises located throughout the United States and several locations located outside of the United States.

The cost of a franchise depended on the territory and size of the general population in the area. The prices ranged from $300k to $750k, with approximately 10% of gross sales paid to the corporate headquarters.

What did you get for your franchise fee? According to our source, the Online Trading Academy pre-packaged a “business opportunity” that taught franchise owners how to fleece consumers with the well-worn sales pitch of “easily earn millions through day trading.”

Consumers would spend upwards of $60k per person to supposedly learn how to day trade from a purported “professional day trader.”

According to the FTC, the company had a special affinity for scamming the elderly and financially illiterate.

More on that later.

Online Trading Academy: The Early Years

Online Trading Academy was established in about 2001 by Eyal Shachar and Sam Seiden.

In the late 1990s, Eyal Sachar arrived in the United States “with zero money” as he describes in his personal biography.

According to people that know him, he is a life long con artist that fled Israel for attempting to sell fake diamonds to consumers.

Additionally, he is described as a “professional con artist” that has spent his entire life selling all manner of get-rich-quick schemes and financial whack-a-doodle.

When he arrived in the United States, “he didn’t know the difference between a stock and a rock.” In fact, he has never day traded successfully, holds no professional qualifications, and has been nearly convicted on multiple financial crimes in his native Israel, according to our source.

But Eyal Shachar quickly realized that American consumers had an unseemingly unquenchable appetite for “day trading” products and services.

About this time, he met a person named Sam Seiden. Mr. Seiden was also a professional con artist that had spent the prior several years selling books and courses describing himself a “millionaire day trader” and he would sell you his “secret trading system” for several thousand dollars.

Sam Seiden of Online Trading Academy. A losing trader. And a professional conman.

They next devised a scheme where they would lure unsuspecting consumers into a professional-looking office replete with dozens of computer screens.

The office was made to appear as a “prop trading” office where professional traders were supposedly executing trades and earning hundreds of thousands of dollars each year.

Consumers were allowed to walk and talk to these “professional traders” including Sam Seiden and they were told that “day trading is easy” but you “need a proper education.”

However, what consumers did not realize is that these “professional prop traders” were nothing more than formerly used car salesmen, timeshare salespeople, and generally people of low moral character.

Consumers were then taken into specially designed sales offices where Eyal Shachar and Sam Seiden would walk the consumer down a carefully prepared “primrose path.” In short, they were shown falsified brokerage statements and stories of “day trading glory.”

The cost to learn these supposed secrets was upwards of $60k per consumer. However, most elderly and financially illiterate are on a fixed income and typically financially desperate.

And so, they devised a scheme where the victim was offered the opportunity to finance their “day trading education” at 18% interest, which must be paid back over the following 6-months.

Knowing that these consumers were typically middle class, and their primary asset was their home, they encouraged consumers to leverage their home equity, borrow on credit cards, or do whatever possible to raise money to pay the educational fees, and open a trading account.

Consumers were led to believe that most people started a trading account with $5k and typically earned $5k to $50k per month by using their “patented trading strategy.”

The Patented Trading Strategy

To further extend the fraud, and to add a bit of sizzle to the sales pitch, they presented consumers with a fancy looking document from the United States Patent Office.

Both Sam and Eyal promised consumers that “This patent serves as proof that our trading strategy is legitimate.”

However, nothing could have been further from the truth. Obtaining a patent requires little more than paying a filing fee and submitting the idea to a clerk.

Have a good cookie recipe? Congratulations, for only $495 you can patent the recipe. This does not mean that your cookies are tasty.

But Sam and Eyal systematically convinced consumers by stating, “The United States Patent Office would not have given us a patent unless we could have proven that our trading strategy is legitimate.”

Once again, this is a blatantly fraudulent misrepresentation.

During the first several years of refining the sales pitch, and subsequently ripping off consumers for millions of dollars, they next devised the franchise scheme of replicating the fraud, and teaching others how to also rip off consumers.

The Franchise Scheme

In order for the fraud to be perfectly executed, Sam and Eyal discovered that the “key to the con” was in the perfect presentation.

It is one thing to sell a fraudulent product to faceless people over the internet. It is an entirely different thing when you can isolate the victim in a sales office, staffed with actors portraying themselves as professional day traders.

The magic happened when people were lured into the spider web of the fancy office, and presented with fraudulent information from highly trained “closers.”

Sam and Eyal perfected the sales pitch into what can best be described as “the perfect fraud” according to sources.

Additionally, they specialized in finding high-pressure salespeople with long histories of selling dubious products and services.

The key was to “polish the turd.” In other words, take a person with no financial qualifications, but with experience in selling used cars, vacuum cleaners, or timeshares and then give them the appearance of a “professional day trader.”

Professional Trader? Nope.
Former Male Porn Actor? Most definitely!

In essence, they were perfecting the art of replicating themselves. Like a virus that invades the host, changes the cell structure, and then releases itself unto the host until the host is completely consumed.

Sam Seiden and Eyal Shachar are not too different than the coronavirus in that they consume their victims, and then teach others how to yet consume more victims.

It worked well. Until the vaccine showed up.

Federal Trade Commission: The Undercover Investigators

Vaccines are a medical marvel. They serve one purpose, to track down a virus and destroy it. Some vaccines disguise themselves as weakened versions of a virus, which triggers the body into producing antibodies.

And yet other vaccines disguise themselves as potential victims in which the target virus unwittingly consumes — only to quickly discover that the vaccine implodes within the virus. Thereby destroying it.

In approximately 2018 and 2019, the United States Federal Trade Commission decided to finally take action against the Online Trading Academy. But how?

According to court documents, several former salespeople bravely came forward and provided the exact blueprint of how Online Trading Academy was operating as a sort of “viral franchise scam”.

They described that the “magic” of the $60,000 sales pitch was in isolating the victim within the inner sales chambers at sales offices and then making verbal communications that would be fraudulent, but hard to prove.

Online Trading Academy was clever in teaching the “closers” that the magical sales pitch should be fraudulent in form but concealed and presented only behind closed doors.

With this information, the Federal Trade Commission then armed a team of investigators with the needed information to worm themselves into these fraudulent sales presentations.

In short, investigators infiltrated several of the franchise operations and secretly recorded everything. What they found was unimaginable fraud and misrepresentation.

The Lies, the Fraud, the Misrepresentation

According to Federal Trade Commission investigative reports and submitted affidavits of secret investigators, the highly-trained closers within this financial slaughterhouse made the following fraudulent statements and actions…

All of the “closers” were instructed on how to present themselves as “professional day traders.”

They were encouraged to tell stories of how they typically earned hundreds of thousands of dollars each year from day trading. That they owned expensive sports cars, lived in expensive neighborhoods, and that their kids attended private academies and Universities.

All were lies.

That they traveled the world on private yachts, visited castles (yes, actually visited castles), enjoyed parasailing, giving generously to charity, and buying homes and cars for family members.

All were lies.

They were encouraged to tell stories that nearly all of the students of the $60k education were now earning between $50k to $250k in their very first year. That nearly anyone with a $5k account was virtually guaranteed to double the account, each and every month.

That they could expect to work only an hour each day.

The secret of the sales pitch all played within the storyline of the “patented trading strategy.” All a consumer needed to do was click the button when the software said “buy” and then click the button when the software said “sell.”

They showed victims copies of the patent and declared they have proven to the United States Government that “this is real, we had to prove it, else they would not have given us the patent.”

They portrayed the trading system as a virtual ATM or printing press where money could be obtained with simplicity and ease. But in order to obtain the secret trading strategy, you must pay a fee of $60k.

Of course, they would also finance the cost with a loan at 18% interest that needed to be paid back within 6 months. But assured that nearly everyone paid it back within 6 months with the profits generated with the “patented trading strategy.”

They encouraged elderly victims to sell their stock portfolios to pay the fee, encouraged them to take a second mortgage, or borrow from a family friend. They were clever, deceitful, and absolutely horrifying.

Additionally, they also maintained a relationship with TradeStation Securities in Miami Florida. They would push their victims to TradeStation to open trading accounts and be paid yet more fees and incentives to direct the victims to TradeStation.

Audited TradeStation Accounts: The Big Reveal

But the Federal Trade Commission was thorough…they subpoenaed TradeStation Securities.

The Federal subpoena was clear. The FTC wanted the names, addresses, phone numbers, and most importantly…the account statements of each and every victim of Online Trading Academy.

The FTC then proceeded to analyze the account statements of each and every victim. What they found was discouraging.

According to court records, the Federal Trade Commission individually analyzed 4,799 trading accounts.

The average account size varied between $5k to $15k. Of all of these accounts, 74.9% of the accounts lost an average of 94%.

Typically, the accounts were drained to nothing within 6-months. Which seems to perfectly match when consumers were required to pay off their $60k debt, at 18% interest.

Consumers that refused to pay, or could not pay were threatened with lawsuits and negative credit reporting.

One victim, in particular, lost his entire life savings of $1,364,337.

The Federal Trade Commission submitted “victim impact statements” from multiple parties and their stories are heartbreaking.

Many people were driven to bankruptcy, had to defend lawsuits for posting negative reviews on YouTube, were constantly harassed and threatened by creditors and lawyers working for Online Trading Academy, and the list goes on and on.

This was truly a nightmare scenario for nearly all. But a glimmer of hope for just a few as the FTC immediately halted Online Trading Academy from attempting to collect these debts, attempting to foreclose on homes, and otherwise further harassing the victims.

Wrappings Things Up

Well, this article took much more time than expected. Thanks for making it this far.

The thing that drives me most crazy is that the Federal Government is still only willing to proceed with civil actions. Not willing to push for criminal prosecution.

Undoubtedly, what these charlatans and con artists pulled off were criminal in nature. They should be jailed. And they should be jailed for the remainder of their lives. What they have committed over the past decade is to simply destroy the lives of thousands of innocent people.

The declarations of victims, contained with the complaint of the lawsuit is truly heartbreaking.

Once again, thanks for reading. And a big thanks to our sponsors and advertisers of TradingSchools.Org. Without your generous support, we would not be able to keep the reviews cranking out.

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Api TeRina Paewai
Api TeRina Paewai (@guest_5057351)
9 days ago

has anyone heard of “trade academy Ltd” by Jade Lynn or Hayden Bell?

Mike
Mike (@guest_5057233)
30 days ago

I’m just now reading this article about the FTC action against OTA and it is October 29th 2020. I too was victimized. What can I do now? My name is Mike and I’m from North Carolina and my email address is:
navmike8@gmail.com. Thanks

Nick
Nick (@guest_5057320)
17 days ago
Reply to  Emmett Moore

Emmett,
Please contact me as well, I am also from North Carolina, and the exact same thing happened to me. Only my deal was financing $20,000 – LOL Military discount I guess?
nickjoymba@gmail.com

Alex
Alex (@guest_5057219)
1 month ago

I attended one of their franchise presentations in Minneapolis several years back. I really attended it to get the free Jimmy John box lunch and I was curious what and how they were peddling the snake oil. The presentation was looking at charts in hindsight to see how much you could have made, similar to all the BS artists on the internet currently. What was most interesting was the one on one hard sales pitch in the office. I actually enjoyed telling them this was not for me and thanks for the yummy lunch. They dismissed me pretty quickly, next…

Nash R
Nash R (@guest_5056892)
3 months ago

The franchise I was at did have at least 4 former car salespeople each acting as a salesperson/education counselor/education coach. They get one week of training at the corporate office and then are ready with the sales pitch.

Mary Jackson
Mary Jackson (@guest_5056877)
3 months ago

This is fake news and slander. OTA is loved by it’s students. Educate yourself. I hope they sue you.

Jesse
Jesse (@guest_5056622)
4 months ago

They are still operating. They are running ads on Facebook and holding classes.

Michael F Macrae
Michael F Macrae (@guest_5056617)
4 months ago

Great investigative reporting…

Rufusa
Rufusa (@guest_5056539)
5 months ago

Hmm, given the choice to believe scammers or the FTC, who do you choose to believe? I am going to believe the party whose mission is to protect consumers, the FTC.

Keith Berry
Keith Berry (@guest_5056445)
5 months ago

I am a former student. And I took Core Strategy and Futures trading.
My only problem with them is the sales tactics can be a bit much.
The material itself takes time and money to grasp
I gave up when I used most of my money to pay for and finance my courses. This was in 2014 and I opened a TradeStation Account with little cash. Could only trade futures.
I had the stripper guy in the picture twice as our instructor. He was very good at making some nice trades on the screen.
If you are new to it you really need to stick with it before you commit money to trading.
I didn’t. But I would love to hear of the people who did and how they are doing now?
I just never felt comfortable with learning the system well enough to pull the trigger.
Different time frames, using the platform, candles, all of these things were like diving into a pool filled with ice cubes. I think if I learned TradeStation platform to the point where I could pull up charts and the matrix and fire off a trade with confidence it might have worked but still I felt like I needed to know why we are doing what we are doing and I never felt that I could know enough. So for that reason I quit and went back to buy and hold which has suited me well. But would love a recommendation for another system that I could reengage with?

Rob Lipman
Rob Lipman (@guest_5056387)
5 months ago

Anyone who paid money thinking they would make a fortune without effort deserves exactly what they got. When I invested in my education with OTA, I KNEW it would take a lot of time and effort to learn what I didn’t know about the market.

This education is IMPOSSIBLE to find unless you work in the markets.

I have worked my butt off to learn this material. There were a lot of people in my classes who just didn’t get it – and weren’t able or capable of learning this material. I STILL am far from an expert. But I have moved way beyond where I was when I joined, and the education was well worth the money.

I am disappointed with the FTC’s action, and strongly disagree that the information contained in this post has validity.

Yana Noyola
Yana Noyola (@guest_5056370)
5 months ago

So glad something is getting done. They are a Ripoff . Over priced school with poor quality instructors.

Yana Noyola
Yana Noyola (@guest_5056369)
5 months ago

So glad this school is finally going to be stopped from stealing from so many people. They sell something great and give you something so low in quality and overpriced. I spent over $30k for a 2 week course that was not taught properly and told I could retake it or do my own research… for $30k I was expecting the top quality detailed course taught to me

Rob Lipman
Rob Lipman (@guest_5056388)
5 months ago
Reply to  Yana Noyola

I, too, spent $30K and I have taken the introductory course THREE times (it takes more than once to “get” it) – and there is no problem with taking classes online. There are thousands of hours of further education available.

This stuff is not easy. It’s not for everyone. Give it another try, and see if it makes more sense next time.

Mike
Mike (@guest_5056359)
5 months ago

I took the core strategy class , it’s a week long , which you can never learn in that amount of time , the instructor was terrible , everything was taught way to quickly, never showed that the strategy actually worked in live trading, doesn’t surprise me they are being investigated

OTA Student
OTA Student (@guest_5056358)
6 months ago

My husband and I joined Online Trading Academy in 2013. We feel we have gotten an outstanding education on many levels. We were never promised that just by signing up we would become millionaires. In fact, every class we took held a clear understanding that there are risks, they need to be managed, and you need to understand your risk tolerance. We were offered opportunities to upgrade our OTA membership, most of which we did not take and we did not feel any high pressure or misrepresentation. We’ve had many outstanding instructors – none of whom talked about their personal situations – no bragging about airplanes, yachts, mansions….

There are resources available to us that we haven’t taken advantage of, but even so we feel that we’ve gotten our money’s worth from the educational opportunities. We also continue to take courses, now online, and find them to be of benefit, refreshing our knowledge and learning new concepts.

The affiliation with TradeStation has been beneficial for us – we appreciate the platform. We’ve looked at other platforms and have come away feeling that TradeStation was the best for us. We belonged to an Investment Club that used Schwab and so we had a direct comparison. We feel that TradeStation works better for us as individuals.

Overall I’d say that we are happy with Online Trading Academy, do not feel duped in the slightest. We are “older”, and certainly not wealthy, but comfortable. We’ve tried many services over the last 7 years and would rate Online Trading Academy as one of the best.

Finally, part of what we were sold is a life-long access to training and support. We would hate to see that go away. That would be a shame for us and for many. Then we would have a beef – but it wouldn’t be with Online Trading Academy, it would be with the FTC.

ota student with no mercy
ota student with no mercy (@guest_5056352)
6 months ago

I will say this… probably their sales tactics changed but in my experience it was straight forward pay for what you want, however I found the strategy decent but did not work in all assets as they claimed. I took it upon myself to further my education on my own and its been a long road. Fxcm was booted they almost blew up my account and the strategy FAILED me there. the instructors didn’t help when it came to fx because that was not an asset they really traded. during 1 class online i critiqued the instructors strategy as being incorrect and that it will lose due to it being on the wrong side of trend and the instructor coined me as experienced. Soon after the school was working on a strategy similar to mine and now its exactly as mine. So what alot of these ota students don’t understand is that they aren’t learning; the school is learning from them trading and reviewing their trades and getting paid all the while. As for payments in 6 Mos that is true. so ota can defend themselves. There is 2 sides to a story and if they are found guilty so be it.

ChuckP
ChuckP (@guest_5056329)
6 months ago

Mr. Moore claims on the about page of this website 1) that he writes reviews 2) that he will “relentlessly search for the truth”

First, the post he made about OTA can not be called a review because he has never taken a single course from OTA. This is the same as if a TV reviewer reviewed a sitcom without ever having watched it, or a food critic reviewing a restaurant without ever having tasted the food.

I consider Consumer Reports to the the gold standard in reviews. They are totally independent. They buy every product they review. They have their own testers and, when needed, enlist outside testing firms as well. Then they survey 1000’s of consumers about every product they review.

Mr. Moore has done none of that. He has done zero independent research. He has done nothing in his claim that he will “relentlessly search for the truth.”

At best this post (I will not dignify his post by calling it an article as the word “article” implies professionalism and this post has none.) is gossip and at worse libel.

The post is not presented as an article of reporting standards. Instead it is filled with everything from outright false accusations and inaccurate comments to childish name calling.

Here are some facts:
1) I have been a student of OTA since 2014.
2) I have attended in person or online over 4000 hours of educational courses through OTA
3) In reference to the post and Sam as a day trader: I have watched, live, Sam Seiden present a 1 hour trading session nearly every weekday morning for over 2 years. Never ONCE did he call himself a day trader. In fact, he has stated on several occasions that day trading is not the best way to make money in the markets. In fact, he has said most day traders fail. He advocates swing trading.
4) In reference to claims about OTA sales tactics: I have never ONCE been told by any OTA staff that OTA will guarantee any returns or any winning percentage while using their system. This includes the founder (Whom I have met and spent time with) Eyal Shahar (Who’s name Mr. Moore misspelled.)
5) Up until last year OTA had no software of any kind in regards to trading. They are building a trading platform but it is still in beta. So OTA could not have any software that has a “buy” or a “sell” button as claimed in the post.

So much for Mr. Moore’s relentless search for the truth.

Finally, after being with OTA for 3 years, as an experiment, I withdrew $32,000 from my main trading account and opened a separate account. I used one specific trading strategy that I developed using the education I received from OTA. In 7 months I doubled the account.

Next I withdrew $1500 from my main account and opened a new account. Again, using a different strategy I developed using the education provided through OTA I doubled the $1500 in 8 weeks.

I have given both my brokerage statements and my trade confirmations to OTA as documented proof that they may use in showing prospective students that what OTA has to offer can and does make a profit.

Alan
Alan (@guest_5056333)
6 months ago
Reply to  ChuckP

I went to one of their free 3-hour trading courses. I am an experienced trader. This place put up so many red flags in their presentation it was obvious a major shakedown fraud operation. Period. No question about it. Who paid you for your comment?

ChuckP
ChuckP (@guest_5056341)
6 months ago
Reply to  Alan

No one paid me. Everything I said, I said because it it true.

LIZ
LIZ (@guest_5056349)
6 months ago
Reply to  Alan

Alan you are closed minded if a simple presentation scares you off. I am also an OTA student since 2015 and it has been a blessing joining OTA. I agree with ChuckP this article is a piece of crap put together by some reporter that was told rumors. OTA works and anyone that says otherwise are those that do not want to put in the time it takes to learn. This is financial education and is not meant to be a get rich quick or exciting process and OTA clearly explains to their students. If you want something that requires less effort go make money playing video games or youtube videos for a thrill… Finance is not a game. #SAVEOTA

dtchurn
dtchurn (@guest_5056390)
5 months ago
Reply to  Alan

Don’t mind these paid shills which most of them are, except maybe for a few still deluded newbs they successfully caught up in a sunk-cost mental block, even though it’s proven now most all ota students just lose money with the “teachings” and all the sham instructors don’t even trade for a living including the owners. OTA has long had a history of covering up their scam in past comment sites that attempted to review them, either bribed them to be compromised like ripoffreport is now, or flood any comment thread anywhere with their actored shills. OTA has done enough damage and gotten away with it for literally decades now. It’s time they were shut down for good and clawbacks from classaction ensue for due justice. Next should be Netpicks (when are you going to review them Emmett? they are legacy shamshow since the late 90’s also and are still duping and monthly churning newbs(!)), the Busby’s, and daytradetowin’s brazillian venture of Marcellos’ theDayTradingAcademy scam.

Arvin Wilson
Arvin Wilson (@guest_5056531)
5 months ago
Reply to  dtchurn

It’s obvious you have never taken a class at OTA. I would like to see any real proof you have of your claims. I have taken may classes at OTA and I have made many friends at OTA. Were are learning !! We learn the rules taught and FOLLOW the rules. If you went to any of the classes you would have learned it’s not how many losses you are your wins more than your losses. Your rant and ravings have no proof and no substance. Thank goodness there are thousands of satisfied students compared to the few whiners who are too lazy to learn. If you follow the rules you will never drain your account.

dtchurn
dtchurn (@guest_5057226)
1 month ago
Reply to  Arvin Wilson

I’d heard enough , even years back about this shamshow from plenty of discussion on elitetrader by many who anecdoted how much of an upselling and expensive fraud it was. OTA’s day is over, even being legacy since the 90’s. LoLol. what rules?, shamshow sim trade, pretend scam hindsight , spreadsheet result “rules” and (car salesman) “stats”. When OTA gets taken down by the feds, maybe we’ll finally stop hearing from their shills like you here.

Last edited 1 month ago by dtchurn
Arvin Wilson
Arvin Wilson (@guest_5056530)
5 months ago
Reply to  Alan

No body paid me for giving my opinion about OTA. If you are an experienced trader, you obviously still have a lot to learn. All the OTA instructors I have had were knowledgeable and demonstrated it through their teaching ability. I spent $100, 000 going through four years of college and when I was done they had nothing more to offer me – unless I gave them more money. I paid less than half that at OTA and now I have thousands of hours of online lessons available as well as the opportunjty to go back to any class for the rest of my life . .. … FOR LIFE AT NO CHARGE !!

Yea YOU have a lot to learn!

Rufusa
Rufusa (@guest_5056322)
6 months ago

So that’s why I stopped receiving junk mail from OTA, after I canceled a scheduled seminar, at a local hotel.

Good.

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