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Pros: Very clever marketing, from a highly intelligent individual. A very good and clever wolf, wearing a very convincing sheep suit.
Cons: No verified trading. The user has zero chance of replicating the moderators trading results. No trading DOM present. No verifiable existence of a trading account. Anyone that trades with Ross Cameron will experience a death by a thousand cuts.

Today’s review is Warrior Trading, a day trading room owned and moderated by Ross Cameron. The trading room specializes in momentum trading of low float stocks. The monthly fee for the trading room is $99, educational courses may be purchased with prices ranging from $800 to $2,400. There is a free trial of 5 trading days. In order to access the free trading room trial, you must sign up with Pay Pal. Once the trial period ends, then Pay Pal will automatically begin billing your account.

My Initial Observation

My initial observation of the Warrior Trading website is that everything is neat and well organized. There is a
picture of a group Ross Cameronof sky divers, all falling to earth and holding hands together, a conveyance of camaraderie. The imagery gives a sense of fun and excitement, and teamwork. The images say’s, “We are in this together!”. And “Day Trading Is Fun!”.

The next that I look for is any button that say’s Performance, or Results. I want to know if the trading room is posting results. You will clearly see a performance button proudly displayed on Page 1. Ok, great so far.

After the performance, I want to see a biography or some sort of write up on the room owner. I want to know whom I am dealing with. On Ross’s About page, you will see a picture of Ross and a narrative of how he got into the business of day trading. As I read the story, I could not help but feel how romantic this story sounded. Ross tells the story of how he was a miserable architect in New York City and he was tired of the rat race and wanted financial freedom. How he dreamed of becoming a day trader and leaving his miserable job behind, and moving out to the country and living in a farm house. I can visually imagine all of this in my head…Ross living in a rustic farmhouse, with dogs and chickens and goats, and of course a big bank of computer monitors on which he rules his simple kingdom of farm animals and day trading.

It all reads so well. And look at Ross, he looks like the guy from the Farmers Market that sells loaves of fresh warm bread. You know the guy I am talking about, he is not materialistic, cares about nature, wants to lead an agrarian sort of lifestyle, believes in Karma, grows tomatoes and cucumbers in his garden, drives a Prius. In a word, NON THREATENING. We all know this sort of fellow, and we trust him because we can generally trust people that have long hair and don’t wear shoes to work.

Ross Cameron Warrior TradingFurthermore, Ross is an architect. How many architects have you heard that have ever ripped off anyone? Or have done anything wrong? The image of an architect conjures up thoughts of bookish, owlish, honest, earnest, hard working, building something, educated. NOT A HUSTLER.

Ross Cameron projects himself as NON-THREATENING, and NOT A HUSTLER. And yet he is now a trading guru. And we all know that the realm of trading gurus is located in the very heart of Hustlersville. So, the big question is whether our granola eating day trading guru is pushing a scam. In effect, is this a wolf in sheep’s clothing type situation. Let’s present the evidence.

Initial Contact with Warrior Trading

A reader contacted me on February 6, requesting that I write a review of Warrior Trading. On Monday, February 9th Ross was holding an open house. In other words, for that one day only, Ross was allowing anyone to sign up for a one-day free trial, without having to submit a credit card number. I signed up and recorded the event. Generally speaking, I am very suspicious of these one day open houses because the trading guru is going to be on his very best behavior. These events are generally well rehearsed, scripted and presented in such a tone and manner that the moderator cannot help but look great. Think of these one day free trials as a one-day free tour of the local butcher. On this particular day, you walk into the butcher’s shop and you see the perfect displays of sausage, cuts of meats, etc. It’s all looks so clean and nice. But really, the thing we need to see most is the business end of the butchers’ shop. In order to figure things out, we want to see what is happening with the sausage making, and where the meat is locked, and the cleanliness of the place, the back of the place. I have personally found that these one day, free trial trading events are scripted and useless sales presentation. And in the case of Ross, I needed to enter my credit card number, pay for a subscription, do some hardcore screen recording on Camtasia to figure out the truth.

Insider Observations Of Warrior Trading

Before I get into the meaty details, let me first explain something about Ross’s trading style. He specializes in what are called low float stocks with high momentum. What is a low float stock? Simply put, there are not a lot of shares on the open market. For instance, General Electric is a high float stock, there are plenty of shares outstanding, the stock is highly liquid with an average of over 40 million shares trading each day. Why is this important? Because stocks with a high float and a high daily trading volume have very tight spreads. Therefore, if the price of GE is currently 27.05 per share, then at any moment during the trading day, you can easily execute a market order to buy GE at 27.06, or a market order to sell GE at 27.04. The spread to buy or sell is very tight, the market is very deep with plenty buyers and sellers, and there are massive amounts of shares floating around.

Ross likes low float stocks that move fast. Here is the problem, stocks that have a low float and high momentum have a problem with wide spreads. What does this mean? This means that since not many shares are floating around, and these stocks tend to move quickly, then the cost of executing a market order can be very high. Example: XYX company is currently selling for $8 per share. To execute a market order to buy, a person would have to execute at $8.05 to immediately execute the order. A person would not enjoy the added liquidity of a high float stock, a person would have to pay a premium of .05 to immediately execute the order. Conversely, if a person executes an immediate order to execute a short trade, or exit a profitable trade, or exit a losing trade, then this person is going to pay this .05 at every angle. Another term, that futures traders use would be “slippage”.

A rookie with little knowledge would be reading this and be thinking to themselves…”hey it’s only a nickel, what’s the big deal?”. But it’s a big deal. It’s big fucking deal. And it highly skews performance from Trader A when compared to Trader B. In fact, Tim Sykes, the popular trading guru has had a big problem with his trading service because of this very problem. He would initiate a trade in a lightly traded penny stock, then blast out to the subscribers that he just entered an order. The subscribers would then trample over each other to get into the trade, which distorted the price and caused so many problems that Tim had to create a swing trading service because of all of the complaints. In a nutshell, the moderator buys at $8 per share, then tells everyone that they should buy. Everyone jumps in at the same moment and the price jumps to $8.20. The moderator wins, everyone else loses.

Now that you have a basic understanding of how a low float with high momentum greatly affects the entry and exit price, I would like to put this information into the context of Warrior Trading and my individual findings.

Real Time Observations Of Warrior Trading

From the week of February 23rd, 2015 through February 27, 2005. I recorded and observed everything that happened inside of the trading room. I was able to confirm that 44 trades were actually called live, by Ross inside of the trading room. At the end of the week, Ross reported a profit of about $9,000 from his trades. Am impressive number! However, at no time during the week was I able to visually confirm the presence of a trading DOM on Ross’s screen. What is a trading DOM? A trading DOM is a price ladder that shows exact prices, allows order entries and exits, and shows the spread at the current price. Also, and most importantly, a trading DOM will show the real time profit and loss for the current position. Ross was not willing to show this information.

During the week, I sent Ross an email requesting that he show the DOM on the screen, this would show us that he was actually executing trades. However, Ross ignored my initial emails and began dodging me. Little did Ross know, that all of my emails are embedded with a tracking program that notifies me in real time, whenever my email is opened and viewed. I could see in real time that Ross was opening my emails and I was expecting him to respond. Ross would not respond. I would email him the next day and he would respond that he did not receive any such email. I knew he was lying. He did not know that I was watching him open the emails.

After Ross refused to show his trading DOM, I then asked him if he would send me a .pdf of only one day’s worth of trading activity. Every broker sends out a nightly report of trading activity, and any account numbers can easily be redacted to hide an account number. I was not asking for names, addresses, account numbers, or any personal or private information…I only wanted to see that he was executing trades, for only a single day. Again, he dodged me with all sorts of excuses about not receiving my messages. It was all nonsense. I canceled the membership shortly thereafter.

Review Part II-More Of The Same

Typically, I like a minimum of two weeks of screen recordings before I write a review. More evidence is better than less evidence. In the case of Ross and Warrior Day Trading, I then signed up for yet another subscription on May 4th, 2015. The newest subscription was under an assumed pen name, an IP address different from the original client Trading Accountaddress, and a Pay Pal account that was established with a pre-paid debit card. Why do I go through all of this trouble of hiding my identity? Because I want to create the illusion of different personas, I have found that the trading Guru will treat Aunt Margie differently than Cousin Carl. They craft the message to the audience.

During the second round of screen recordings and review, nothing has really changed since February. Ross still refuses to show a trading DOM to viewers, so we have no idea whether he is actually making any trades, and if you send him an email showing an account statement, he again acts like he did not receive it. However, this most recent request for an account statement, I got a bit more aggressive and demanded proof of actual trading. Ross responded by sending me a picture that he took with his smartphone. This appears to show something. But not really useful. Why? Simply put, most of todays modern trading software allow a replay mode on a simulated account. What the fuck does that mean? It means that a person can watch the market in the morning, and then go back with a simulator and enter and exit orders at exactly the optimal moment. The trading platform records the trade as “real time”. The trading guru then uses this information as marketing fodder. A slight of hand gimmick, and one used very often on Profit.ly. You can read more about profit.ly here and here.

When I ask for proof from a trading vendor, and he sends me a picture that he took with a camera phone…this screams fraud and fake. Why not just be honest and send me a redacted account statement, many vendors do this for me now. Heck, the guy that runs Night Scalper gives me so much proof that he is borderline obsessive in proving how real he his.

How This Looks On Video

The following video is an example of a trade the Ross took in the trading room. I have videos of both winning and losing trades, but this video, in particular, was a big winner for Ross. The stock really broke out to new highs, however, the Ross never gave the room much of a warning that he was getting into the stock. He just announced, “OK, I am Long!”. Then after the stock breaks out to newer highs, he announced: “OK, I am half out!”. How many shares? At what price did he get? Again, the room members have no advance information and we have no idea what is going on.

Losing Trades

The example above was for a perfect winning trade. But what about the losing trades? The losing trades drove me bonkers. Why? Because when the price moved against Ross, he would shout out, “OK I am OUT!”. Really? Just like that? We are sitting there holding our trades and you never gave us a stop to exit! The market continues to move against us, and now we must exit at the market, with no warning. And remember, these are light float stocks with high spreads…so we get slaughtered on a market order. Amazing stuff folks.

A Message For Ross

Warrior Day Trading is a fraud. I do not believe you, Ross. The trades that you call in the live trading room cannot be replicated. Even on a simulator, with recorded time and sales, my virtual assistant was not able to come anywhere near what you post as actual results on your website. However, I sincerely want to be wrong. But the evidence is so deep, damning and thorough that I simply have to declare that your trading room is one of the most deceptive trading rooms that I have ever witnessed. The fraud is subtle. The deception is slight but powerful. You are very good at creating small angles where a person of lesser intelligence could very easily be swayed into believing that you are real. Please, Ross, prove me wrong. Release an account statement, this is the only way that I will ever be convinced that the fantastic results posted on your website are the true and honest results that you yourself are present as fact.

Thanks For Reading

Thanks for taking the time to read this post. It’s long and I was especially tough on Ross. But I feel that Warrior Trading is highly deceptive, is a complicated fraud, and I wanted to make sure that I captured enough video evidence before I wrote such a scathing review. Many of you will disagree with me, and I hope that you will reach out to me and express your opinion. In fact, I hope that you can convince me otherwise. Nothing would make me happier than to eat humble pie.

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Fred
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Please avoid Warrior Trading at all cost. If you ask for a refund they will refuse and make excuses why no refund. Don’t give them any money you will be sorry. Go to another trading school do your homework. I searched the internet about warrior trading and found nothing that stood out bad a lot of good an excellent ratings (cow patties), so that is why I’m taking the time to warn people BEFORE they sign up. I never received even one day of class. My account was locked days after I requested a refund. They will reference you to… Read more »
Lynn
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What are your thoughts about it now? I’ve sat in on his chat room and taken his Warrior Starter class and he appears to be doing the trades. He also shows trades he’s made inside of Suretrader.

Mike M
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Ross Cameron claims to have 500k members that make extensive profits. However, the broker at Suretrader , the platform Warrior Trading uses, claims all of his subs lose money. Yes you heard that right…..all his 500k members which is obviously slightly inflated, lose money. All of them lose money. That is worse than the 90% loss ratio of the industry. I thought with Ross Scameron’s keen insight and his hand holding , everyone from Warrior Trading will make at least some money. At the very least some would turn $583 into 6 figures in a few months like this genius… Read more »
Rob B
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When I read your post I could not believe a broker would put out this information, after all won’t this open him up to some confidentiality lawsuits or something? But this sure puts a spike in all those posters / shills that defended WT.

https://www.suretrader.com/blog/

I am sure the brilliant marketer did not see this coming. There must have been something that happened for SureTrader to post this.

Mike M
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When con men have disagreements they don’t talk about it rationally. They go for blood because they don’t have a moral compass. If one does business with morally corrupt individuals, expect to run into issues when there are disagreements. I’m loving this. Let’s see if there are authorities lurking in the background getting ready for Ross to answer to all his bs.

Tommy Coffee
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Here’s why he can’t be sued. It’s all very clear in his disclaimer that he is a total scam. It says (along with a lot of other honesty): “…you understand, acknowledge and agree that chat room moderators may call out or post both real and hypothetical trades and real and simulated or hypothetical returns…” and: “MODERATOR results may be based on simulated or hypothetical performance, and such results have certain inherent limitations. Unlike the results shown in an actual performance record, such results do not represent actual trading. … performance results do not reflect actual trading commissions that You may… Read more »
Tommy Coffee
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If what he is doing is fraudulent, has he been sued yet? I don’t understand how he is able to deceive so many people, showing false data and getting away with it. What proof would one need to slap a lawsuit on his company?

notduped
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Ok its been quiet for a while in here. I have read pages of opinions in here and appreciate that. I took advantage of the five days for $5.00 that Ross offered to people to come check out the forum. I will admit for the most part there are nothing but glowing reviews about him and WT on google but I was glad when i stumbled across the chat blog. I didnt make it into the first free day but managed to get there on the second free day. Ross, first trade out of the gate was 25,000 shares of… Read more »
Tommy Coffee
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He makes it clear that some of his trades are fake: ““You understand, acknowledge and agree that Warrior Trading and its directors, officers, shareholders, employees, agents and affiliates have no obligation to notify you as to which trades and returns are real versus simulated or hypothetical”

dtchurn
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Yeah they started doing that after the tradingschool review and comments about catching them in sim one of them catching Ross trying to reflexively hide a sim account window before mumbling it was part of the “sim practice” plan, yeah right.. Before they revamped their site and wording, it was claimed they traded live for a living, and showed off their fudgey “profits” spreadsheets which were taken down “due to compliance”. They are as sham to the rotten cores among the worst shamshow sites that also happen to be among the best at churning.

dtchurn
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Interesting investigation into the orders. So Ross is claiming to use TDA for his “live” trading now? However, in summary all this shows imo is that there are some traders perhaps like yourself who are trying to pre-empt the other traders on Ross’ list of watched stocks in the morning, or Ross is just doing what his former scam boss Jason Bond id in front-running his clients of which Ross was a room mod sans beard and fake glasses during the time when he was supposedly an “architect”. Yes, when I was a dupe in the room, I had my… Read more »
Mike M
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dtchurn, I forgot you had first had experience with glasses, classic. Now I understand why your responses are dead on with that fraudulent site.

Sunshine
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Emmet Moore, I have personal experience with warrior trading. Would you be willing to do an interview with me? Thank you

lee
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Very fishy!!!!! They have just banned me from watching one of his webinars on Webinar Jam. When he started pushing for paying $2K+ and to get a lot of free educational and software packages, and a chance to be among the 35 selected to train directly with him, i was almost there and thinking about getting the money together. Decided to do a quick investigation first (fast, because the offer was valid for minutes). There were no top result in the search engine saying that Warrior Trading is a scam. Used my browser video capture app and found that the… Read more »
dtchurn
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The video is down now. But glad you caught it and were the wiser, congrats. Sounds like they have the same shills and actored members in each chat session until they bother to change the names again. The WT gray-hoodie trifecta are pretty sneaky. They’ve paid for legal, erasure of archive.org traces, and probably shilling rights for trustpilot.com, keeping ahead of the fraud laws, and attempting to keep this review from showing up on the first page of web searches. According to similar web, they’re doing better than JohnCarter and Levin’s shamrock crew. Wonder how long they’ll last at the… Read more »
Mike M
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That’s great to hear. I hope more people will think for themselves and put that clown out of business. If one doesn’t realize it now, they will eventually come to the conclusion that it is a theatrical fiasco to separate you from your money. They are laughing every time a new member types in their credit card number.

Rob B
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Congratulations!

You are much wiser than most of the suckers being taken by this con man. Wise enough to at least think before sending him money.

Todd
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https://www.trustpilot.com/review/warriortrading.com

Anyone see how he has all these supposed reviews on “trustpilot”? This guy is brilliant with the marketing… JUST BRILLIANT

Rob B
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If nothing else I from what I have seen of Ross, he is a brilliant marketer. Go on Trust pilot make up a bunch of alias and post great review. How about challenging one of those reviewers to come over here and actually show any proof of their claims. You see it is easy to make claims not so easy to back them up. Personally I would not trust anything from trust pilot.

dtchurn
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Maybe the WarriorTrading, former-architect boondocky meagre-aboding-farmhouse leaf-raking, gray-hoodie trifecta bought out “trustpilot” or is now their biggest sponsor. Just like another Sykes investiscamma-profit.ly burgeoning or the Levin shamrock dungpire.

Mike M
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Warrior Trading may now be the biggest sham show on the internet today. I puke in my mouth every time I come by one of his pathetic recaps and his nonsensical 2400 percent profit in his small account. The perfect bait for a retail trader with very little money just getting started. The fees alone will deplete a newbie after the first month, if one lasts that long. I can’t for the life of me understand why any of his loyal followers don’t call him out on his pure lies. Architect or he played one online. LOL, what a joke.… Read more »
Rod
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he recommended the TradeZero Broker. Do you know anything about it? ive open an account there but now im out of hope with his tips.

Mike M
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The very young and uninformed seem to flock to him because he is so genuine. You can’t make this bs up. On his you tube page recaps, there are hoards of young people praising his carnival act as if it is real and he is the gatekeeper of information that will lead them to success. That is very dangerous for someone that decides to trade like him and forget about college all together. He is doing so much damage and creating financial hardships that may take years to over come.

Rob B
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When I read your post for some reason, Trump talking about funding trade school jobs just popped into my mind. I can see the ads now; as part of the new non college jobs initiative we are offering Day Trading Courses.

Mike M
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The economy based on one big ponzi scheme now. LOL too funny, yet not funny.

Rob B
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“He reminds me of the guy working at the carnival, where he has the game mastered and makes it look so easy.”

The difference there is a trick in many of the carnival games whereby if you learn it you can win at the game. On the other hand, there is no trick to the nonsense these TR teach. It is pure BS and no one wins at it including the TR Operator.

Danny K
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Are people actually trying to join a day trading platform that will tell them exactly when to enter and exit a trade? You must be kidding me right. I have been in a few of Ross’s free Monday chat rooms and watch all of his daily recaps. I have learned a lot and created my own trading strategy based off of research, practice on simulators, and information gathered from Ross and others. You will never be profitable if you simply sit back and pay X amount a month for a chat room and blindly execute trades with no rhyme or… Read more »
marj
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my friend who’s a fire fighter is telling me that he’s planning to leave his job because he thinks he can make $200-$800 per day using warrior trading’s forum and tips. In fact he’s telling his son this is better than going to college. Yikes! Has anything changed from this post 2 years ago? Should I warn him with your information?

dtchurn
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Wow, their front page now shows them as the overnight-avgdowning-simfudging gray-hoodie trifecta, lol. Looking more like Levin’s shamrock-crew m.o. everyday, well surpassing it now probably.

Mike M
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Please tell your friend to run from this con artist as if he is carrying the bubonic plague. This room will take your friend’s last dollar then chat about his successes while traveling the world on your friend’s last dime. I assume your friend is trading a relatively small account let’s say $20,000, just for argument’s sake. Let’s take the middle road and say 500 a day, 2500 a week and 10,000 a month. Your friend will make 50 percent a month on his account as a rookie trader. If that’s the case he should get a job with the… Read more »
Stray Dog
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Tell him to have a go at landing a leading role in Chicago Fire. My bet is he’s got about the same chances.

Rob B
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“my friend who’s a fire fighter is telling me that he’s planning to leave his job because he thinks he can make $200-$800 per day using warrior trading’s forum and tips.”

Assuming your friend has any common sense I would hope he would try and trade WT trades live for awhile before quitting his job. WT is one of the biggest con artist out there. My guess is he is more than likely to lose $200-$800 per day.

dtchurn
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Hopefully your friend has read this review and the commentary to make a better informed decision about warrior trading. Also he should be aware this shamster was a mod for JasonBond, one of the worst scammers ever seen on investiscamma. Also WT had the fake architect bio and faux spreadsheets erased from archive.org
web.archive.org/web/20131112164252/http://www.jasonbondpicks.com/meet-the-traders/

Max
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Hey guys, I’m wondering if you actually all think Ross Cameron forged the broker statements. That’s all thank you.

I am not a robot
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I am not a robot

It is a big shame that Ross’s fake positive review page is now beating this page in Google rankings.

Doug
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Thanks Emmett for your hard work and all comments I read.
I’m a beginner trader, at first moment his advises (as any other, I still studying) look impressive. Good to know and your information would be spread on the community.

JamesMurk
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This is not a scam, but Ross Cameron promises much, much more than he delivers (profit) in his expensive trading program: Profit Claims Ross claims to have made over $230,000 in 2016, and his brokerage account as of March/April has hovered in the $10000 range (grown from a $500 account starting 1/1/17). Unless he’s fudging paperwork, his profits are impressive. However, Ross has taken massive and significant losses in March/April of 2017. Following his trade advice recently has been a costly and potentially devastating propostion for any green trader. Expensive Training According to his website, the $4299 3-month training program… Read more »
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