Guy Gentile and Sure Trader *Update*

Thanks for reading today’s update of Guy Gentile and Sure Trader

Sure TraderOn May 23, 2016 the owner of Sure Trader, Mr. Guy Gentile was officially charged with securities fraud by the US Attorney’s Office, District of New York.  The official press release, from the United States Department of Justice can be found here.

On April 1, 2016 Trading Schools.Org published an article detailing the alleged securities fraud case against Guy Gentile.

The allegations of the fraud were that Guy Gentile, during the years of 2006-2009 had orchestrated several fraudulent penny stock promotions that had personally netted him several million dollars in illegal profits.  The amount of personal profits to Mr. Gentile ranges in several million dollars.

In speaking with several United States based stock brokerages, two offshore stock brokerages, as well as dozens of United States based customers, the big question is how has Sure Trader been able to remain in business, and continues to accept US based customer accounts?  Prior to Sure Trader, offshore stock brokerages that market directly to United States based retail customers have traditionally been a target of Federal securities regulators.  The perplexing question as to how Sure Trader has remained unhampered with by US regulators, appears to no longer be a mystery. We now have the full story.

The Sure Trader “mouse trap”

Apparently, from July 16, 2012 through about July 2015, Sure Trader has essentially been used as an FBI “mouse trap”.  What exactly is a “mouse trap?”  The FBI has been recording everything that has been happening at Sure Trader.  Guy Gentile essentially allowed the entire brokerage business to be “wired up”, and it was being used as a launch pad to execute various fraudulent securities schemes, and more importantly to trap individuals in the act of committing these frauds.

In many ways, the “mouse trap” of Sure Trader very much resembles a fake fencing operation.  Where a local police department sets up a fake office location and then accepts all manner of stolen goods.  They record everything.  And then at some point, the choicest and most egregious criminals are indicted and jailed.  Sure Trader appears to have operated as a sort of high-tech fencing operation where FBI agents have had open access to everything happening inside of Sure Trader.  All of this was happening, right under the noses of the Bahamian Securities Authorities…and they had absolutely no idea.

Why would Guy Gentile allow this to happen?  On July 13, 2012, Guy Gentile was originally arrested by FBI agents and jailed in Newark, New Jersey.  Immediately after being arrested, Guy attempted to cut a deal with FBI agents.  The FBI agreed to listen.  The indictment was then resealed and temporarily shelved.  Guy was allowed to leave the Newark jail.  The premise of the deal was that the FBI would receive full cooperation on the pending securities fraud case, against the co-conspirators.

In addition, Guy would give the FBI, the United States Department of Justice, and the SEC full and open access to Sure Trader and that Guy would assist and curate new securities cases against various individuals and companies.  All of this was in the vague promise that he could possibly “walk” from his own criminal prosecution.

Assisting the Government

Imagine for a moment, for the past several years, you have been executing various penny stock frauds and have profited millions of dollars.  Executing these highly sophisticated, penny stock frauds.  The government has been snooping around, subpoenaing documents, asking questions, expending resources, and conducting an investigation.  The government has expended a great deal of resources, time and energy into building a case against you.  Its reasonable to assume that they will “want their pound of flesh.”  I find it extremely hard to swallow that Guy didn’t know that a criminal case was imminent.

In fact, Guy was very aware that the statute of limitation for securities fraud was five years.  From the day he was arrested, it appears that he went into self preservation mode.  The plan was to provide the government with an unlimited buffet of securities fraud and hope for one of two possible outcomes:

Outcome A: provide the government with enough cases against other individuals and companies, and hope that it would be enough to get his own case dropped.

Outcome B: cooperate with the government and hope to “run out the clock” on the 5 year statute of limitations.

And so, from about July 2012 through about July 2015, Guy went absolutely bonkers trying to build cases for the government.  And by all accounts, it appears that he was one hell of a good government informant!  Lets review some of his work.

Various Pump and Dump Frauds

Guy’s co-conspirators were Adam Gottgetter, Samuel DelPresto, Mike Taxon, and Itamar Cohen. He provided evidence (wire taps, etc.) against all individuals. All four plead guilty to felonies.

In addition:

Over the three year period that Guy worked as an informant, it appears that he did a tremendous amount of good. Surely, he thought that with so much cooperation, the US Attorney would drop his original, penny stock fraud case.  However, the US Attorney decided to prosecute anyway.  The original case, which was sealed on July 16, 2013 was unsealed and the US Attorney has decided to move forward and prosecute.

Statute of Limitations

What about the statute of limitations?  It appears that Guy’s plan was to cooperate with the government and hopefully “run out the clock” on the five year statute of limitations.  However, it appears that his strategy didn’t work as planned.  Apparently, Guy signed a waiver that allowed the Statute of Limitations to be extended and delayed, while he was working for the US Attorney as an informant.

On July 14, 2016, the attorneys representing Guy filed a motion to dismiss the original case, on the grounds that the original statute of limitations had now expired.  It should be interesting to see how the judge rules….

The following are the court documents, in their entirety. Its a long read. But worth it.

My own personal opinion

The court documents of this case are quite large.  If you spent any amount of time reading the documents, it probably took you at least an hour.  In my opinion, this is an extremely interesting read.  Obviously, Guy Gentile feels like he has gotten a really bad deal from the US Attorney.  I am sure that most folks that read the Motion To Dismiss are probably feeling sympathetic to his plight.  I certainly do.  He cooperated for 3 long years. During those 3 long years, I can only imagine the stress and anguish that he must of experienced.

Basically, he has been like a fish on a hook. Constantly trying to escape. But his captors tortuously offered him a sliver of hope. Allowed him to repetitively swim back down into the muck and grime. Over and over he went back and pulled out conviction upon conviction from a vast pool of fraud and deceit. Sure, he profited millions of dollars for his own fraud, but was it really worth it? I bet if you asked Guy Gentile if the crime was worth the payday, he would be the first to say, “HELL NO”. It cost him a marriage, a failed restaurant, had his name and reputation dragged through this blog, Sure Trader has taken a black eye, he has incurred massive legal expenses, personal anxiety that I can only imagine, and the threat of a very long prison sentence. If he walks free and his Motion To Dismiss is granted, perhaps he deserves it. In my opinion, it certainly appears so.

However, if he is convicted. Does it really make much difference? I cannot imagine that the prosecutor is going to ask for much jail time. And what judge, in light of his out-sized cooperation would give him a long sentence? It just seems like he has taken a real beating on this. How much more is warranted?

Well that’s it for today. Thanks for reading. And don’t forget to leave your comments below. Am very curious how the trading community feels about this case. So leave a comment!

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rick (@guest_28920)
3 years ago

I joined Suretrader because Warrior Trading was recommending it. Now I filled out withdrawal form and it’s been over 2 weeks and I still haven’t got my money. Is this a scam? I believe Ross Cameron from Warrior Trading is a scammer. He only shows recap not live trades. He charges $149/month for chat room and recommendations to buy a stock. Always low float for some reason. He always gets positive comments in youtube videos which is strange.

Mike M
Mike M (@guest_28926)
3 years ago
Reply to  rick

Ross Cameron is the largest con man online nowadays. He posts everything with smoke and mirrors. I would question the legitimacy of anything he is involved with.

Thomas K
Thomas K (@guest_10180)
4 years ago

Any update?

KAG Law (@guest_11355)
4 years ago
Reply to  Emmett Moore

Looks like it’s going to get dismissed, based on the Judge’s comments:

jhon dow
jhon dow (@guest_11929)
4 years ago
Reply to  Emmett Moore

HI i have an account with suretrader and a US citizen should i be worried ?

dtchurn (@guest_12073)
4 years ago
Reply to  jhon dow

I wonder if the StockHorseWhisperer lady Stephanie/Fara is friends with the Mrs.Gentile, owner of DAS/suretrader/speedtrader. I guess they couldn’t let Ross of WT get a complete monopoly on showing a DAS trading room screen.

jim (@guest_9222)
4 years ago

whats the latest with this ?? Shouldn’t have the judge ruled by now?

Facts (@guest_9221)
4 years ago

Guy Gentile was a scumbag whole robbed millions from unsuspecting investors through penny stock scams. Then he turn rat for the FBI in a clear attempt to save his own ass. He’s the worst of the worst a real piece of crap all the way around and I hope he goes down hard for this.

Curious George
Curious George (@guest_9165)
4 years ago

Anyone know “the real story” about Guy Gentile and his relationship with the sheriff of Putnam county new York? Guy is (was) sheriff Smith’s right hand man, his most trusted confidential advisor, even by smith’s own admission. What was that about? Was Guy trying to nail sheriff Smith too?

Achraf GAIZI
Achraf GAIZI (@guest_8608)
4 years ago

Hello, I really need your opinion guys. What will happen to SureTrader. I want to open an account with them but when I read this article I don’t know if I still want to. Is is like safe? Will SureTrader stop doing business in the futur? or nothing of that would happen? does it depend of Guy Gentile? I don’t know Someone please clarify that for me.

Thanks in advance.

obama_sucks (@guest_8596)
4 years ago

wow, i actually wanted to deposit to suretrader but something hold me back! now i chose another broker – tradezero, let’s see how it goes. Anyways, this story is crazy! Informing FBI&SEC for 3 long years…

guy gentile is hell of a manipulative and sneaky guy…

all the more reason to pay attention to brokers and FBI , frauds…

jim (@guest_8582)
4 years ago

what do you think will happen Emmett? The lawyers made a very compelling case.. but who knows why gov still decided too pursue the charges.. theirs definitely more than meets the eye here….

jim (@guest_8583)
4 years ago
Reply to  jim

The Anxiety alone must have been crazy for Guy.. crazy

Rob B
Rob B (@guest_8589)
4 years ago
Reply to  Emmett Moore

4 Months. In Baltimore they charge Police Officers with manslaughter for not putting a seat belt on a dangerous criminal and this guy gets nothing because he ratted on some friend. You did not see Gordon Liddy rat. Where is the justice. I say tar and feather him.

Stray Dog
Stray Dog (@guest_8729)
4 years ago
Reply to  Emmett Moore

If they throw the book at him, there’s not a lot of incentive for anyone else to cooperative in the future.

Scott (@guest_8579)
4 years ago

If Suretradef is a Shill for the FBI & SEC, then I would like some of that 5k+ in commisions I paid returned to me!

sam (@guest_8575)
4 years ago

Thanks for the new info Emmett. I’m sure most of us on the outside had no idea of Gentile’s involvement. All we saw was his local support by the sheriff buddies for his community “activism”. In my opinion, I don’t really feel that generous. However with the new info, he has done some legit snooping work with the sec and fbi. I hope WarriorTrading gets shut down because of this eventually. They promoted Suretrader and Speedtrader like crazy before the fallout from the tradingschools review and comments. American Greed has quite a few examples of fraudsters cooperating with the fbi and “coming clean” only to return to new related crimes a few years later, then they end up completely locked away in the end. I would give Gentile a year or so in prison time after all this out of a sense of justice. Then it’ll be up to him if he reforms by himself for the rest of his life.

Brian (@guest_9375)
4 years ago
Reply to  Emmett Moore

I have only heard negative things about Guy. He stole money and tried to save himself. Didn’t hear about the gay porn yet lol is he a porn star now??

sam (@guest_8577)
4 years ago
Reply to  Scott

lol, and that smirk Sykes is still at it this summer.

Rob B
Rob B (@guest_8562)
4 years ago

I think the deal they should offer him is instead of a public hanging, he be allowed to rot in jail the rest of his life. But I hate con artist that take advantage of fools, but that is just me.

BTW, sorry Emmett. LOL.

BigLou (@guest_8560)
4 years ago

Man that is crazy but will suretrader stop taking US customers and what about its current US clients and accounts? FBI must know every US trader that opened account there.

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