Home / Live Trading Rooms Live Trading Rooms 325 Comments Newer Comments » saten sharma November 16, 2015 Hi Emmet We are so glad to have someone like you who spends countless hours vetting boys from man in the trading jungle. Can you please conduct a test on Joseph James and his room …The school of Trade. He trades in SIM and also posts trade of the Day videos which are in Market replay to show how successful he is. He fabricates his PnL statement that he sents to poor traders to show how good he is Sharmas Reply daniel October 6, 2015 Hi Emmet, Have you tested “rightlinetrading.com”? If so, what´s your opinion? best regards, daniel Reply daniel September 10, 2015 Hello Emmet, what has happened to your review of tradingstarpro? I can´t find it any longer. It was a tradingroom you recommended, right? Recently I took a look at Harry Singhs´ website and he is posting result every single day. Unfortunately he does not offer a free trail any longer but the results are consistently good. regards, daniel Reply Emmett Moore September 10, 2015 Hi Daniel, At 6 months, anyone that gets a positive review needs a re-review. I contacted Harry and asked that he submit account statements that verify the current performance information on his website. He ignored me, so I pulled the positive review. These guys enjoy a massively positive benefit from positive review. I only ask that they maintain transparency. Emmett Reply Christian November 26, 2015 Evan Dr. Dean pull him off of his Trading Titans list. Reply Barrymore August 28, 2015 @Daniel regarding Chartsky……. I was trying out chartsky and it was NOT GOOD in my opinion. Paid $200 for a trial and ran away after just a few sessions because I can see that was not the trading I’d like to be doing! Reply mongo August 25, 2015 Hey Emmett, whats your take on Sean Kozak of Golden Zone Trading and Dr. Bill McDowell’s (Trade The Bars Method), might as well throw in another PA trader (probably from the Nial Fuller – Trade the Market School) – Justin Bennett. Reply Emmett Moore August 25, 2015 On the list! Bill McDowell is long promoter. “100% winning days with zero drawdowns”, OK sure Bill. Reply kaly January 1, 2016 Waiting to hear about this …zero drawdowns? Reply Paul June 18, 2016 Sean Kozok is the real deal. Perhaps thats why he hasn’t been reviewd on this site. I am a mastery student of his and there is no BS, I totally respect GZT and what they are bringing to the market Reply Rob B June 19, 2016 Thank you Paul for the mindless useless advertisement. Serious you think anyone here is going to say, “Gosh really where do I sign up”. When you can say this: Sean Kozok is the real deal. There is no circus of 3 traders to cause misdirection. First he trades live not sim crap. Second, he shows his brokerage account live, third he has his DOM or Chart Trader shown for every trade. Fourth he post accurate results showing his brokerage statement as evidence of entries and exits. And fifth he is no pump and dump where he makes money while his students lose money. In other words you can take his same trade and make money. And lastly he has a decent free trial period for you can confirm all this for yourself. And frankly for me that is the baseline. Anything less than that is nonsense con artist BS. Reply Paul June 19, 2016 Rob, He does and shows everything you have asked in your reply. Open book on his accounts, All live trades, plus all losses are shown, He has nothing to hide and hides nothing. And i am not promoting him, Am just saying how it is. Its very rare in this industry to find people like Sean, however Futures71 is awesome also. I guess you being such a negative skeptic , which i fully understand in this industry, the best thing to do is take a free trial in his live trade room. You have nothing to loose. Rob B June 20, 2016 Paul, You say skeptic, I say realist after realizing this entire industry is nothing but swindlers selling a pipe dream. I no longer trade the complete non sense way the con artist Trading Educators teach, but for the Shits and Grins I checked out Golden Zone Trading’s Youtube videos and their web site. You know what I saw? I saw the typical Trading Educator selling a $7,000 course with Supply Demand areas similar to what Sam Seiden teaches, telling people they too can make a living by taking numerous scalps a day trading a highly leverage and highly volatile instruments by using their Holy Grail S/D indicators. And to my Shock, Shock, Shock; guess what I did not see? Any actual proof of their claims as I outlined in my previous post and you stated they showed. Nowhere on their site did I see any type of track record what so ever. Heck they did not even have the decency to post a fake track record like most Trading Rooms do, more less a real track record showing their trading results everyday with actual entries and exits being posted alongside a brokerage statement with that Broker’s Name shown proving those entries. You see it is one thing to post a fake track record, but I am guess even the incompetent regulators might go after you if you post a fake brokers statement claiming live trading. So instead of proof you get a free trial day whereby no one can evaluate performance and there will be ton of shills stating how they are knocking it out of the park and went from broke to making a living after taking the $7,000 course. So Paul I call you out. Have your buddy Sean post his broker’s statement or show Emmett his broker’s statement’s live or use the robot to show real proof of this brilliant profitable trading. Or being you are doing so well with this system, you can do the above. Anything short of showing actual proof is complete BS advertisement as far as I am concerned. Paul June 21, 2016 Did you inquiry or ask Sean for live results? In regards to me posting live results , not much point as with the GZT method i am still on sim. Mostly for the reason that i need to send hard earned money to USA for a live trade account which i don’t feel comfortable about. However, Phillip Capital Singapore are expanding and once they have the exchanges I will then open a live account.. In the future when i have atleast 30 live trades logged i will gladly post live results. At present I am making money , but nothing exceptional yet .My history is trading ASX stocks, and have done exceptional at it, Recently had a stock SMN.AU go from .02 to $2.30. So thats where my focus is. However doing GZT course after many others I have found it to work thus far. I did Opentrader Pro course as well. Had some good info but for price and application it wasn’t the best. The best thing to do is get a live past to the trade room and ask to see live results and watch the trades happen. “realizing this entire industry is nothing but swindlers selling a pipe dream” I totally agree with this statement. I would love for Emmett to do a review. @Emmett, Can you please review Sean Kozak and Goldenzonetrading? . Rob B June 21, 2016 So you are telling people to buy a $7000 course in something you say you are not trading live? I will be nice here. When you are trading actual real money with real entries and real exits using GZT tell us how that is going for you and post those 1st 30 trades results. I have a feeling that will never happen. You can only tell ones real performance over a long period of time with proof of live trading. Seeing one or two days of trading means nothing, plus every TR I have been in is a circus. No real live trading. A lot of lying but not real trading. But again come back when you actual have placed a live trade. And seriously if you are making your money from buying stocks that are selling for .02 cents. Good luck, you will need it. sam June 21, 2016 No big deal. We all go through the kool-aid phases especially being fooled by clever marketing and new tricks invented by the next “real deal” guru. Those not used to the tradingschools criteria of evaluation yet still won’t get simulated or ambiguous “live trades” don’t cut it. In this thread, a bmt post clearly mentions GZT showed some excel sheet as “results.” https://futures.io/vendors-product-reviews/36275-goldenzonetrading-sean-kozak.html#post524056 I hope others who paid the 7k and more and found too late it was bunk post their review. Paul June 21, 2016 Cheers Sam. It is no big deal. The positive thing is we are having this chat and perhaps the truth will come out sooner than later with evidence either way, The question i ask if GZT is just another charlatan then why isn’t there more negative reviews? Surely there would be more than what is already on the net. I have googled him 100 times trying to find the dirt. The spreadsheet thing doesn’t worry me as I have viewed his live trading accounts in the trade room. Alot of ways you can tell is the dom on Ninja is white when live. And ofcourse viewing the trade as well. Depends how you view 7k. To some people its alot and others just pennies. I truely believe in the near future i will have doubled if not tripled my investment in GZT. And those results will be posted here. If GZT is a fraud, then who isn’t? We know the FED and most brokers are. Paul June 21, 2016 No i never ever said that. What I said is its rare to find someone like Sean in this business. As i believe he is above board. So don’t put words in my mouth. So its your opinion that someone should only post if they are trading live with a particular system? That statement alone shows your limited knowledge. Do you trade at all? As for you Rob since you are the seasoned live trader guru here. I challenge you to post your live results. I bet you don’t have any. At least I am being honest and up front. Been trading ASX stocks since 92 and made a small fortune. Your cynicism just gets stronger , why? because i guess you have never been successful at trading. If you had and since you have so much to say. Why don’t you prove me wrong? Which platform do you use? And data feed? who do you clear through. Present your statements? Can’t wait . Please prove me wrong. I can even give you a personal email if you don’t want the whole world to view. So there, You have NO EXCUSE. I bet your answer be similar to all the scammers on the net that you so rightly despise. Osikani June 21, 2016 Rob is not selling anything, so he does not have to prove anything. This is not a pissing contest to see who can piss the furthest. If Rob ever starts to sell his trading room, we shall hold his feet to the fire, just like we do everybody else. But as long as he is not asking anybody for money in exchange for his trading knowledge, there is no reason to demand he prove anything. One needs proof in order to invest in him. If there is nothing to invest in, your challenge is out of order. Paul June 21, 2016 Osikani. Bias perhaps.!!!! I havn’t asked for any money nor would I. But I’m being challenged simply for giving an honest opinion. And by persons who have only watched youtube and scrolled through his website. And further more apart from a small thread on Big Mikes I can not find any other negative reviews on GZT. In that I find confusing considering people here seem to know what a rip off it is. Strange to me. Time will tell and we shall all know. In the meantime I’m prepared to keep using GZT till I prove to myself it’s dodgy. Osikani June 22, 2016 You were recommending something, and implied that your recommendation was based on your results. As your results are the basis for your recommendation, it is appropriate for us to ask you to show us the stellar results that make you recommend that we spend 7k on some system of which we have no knowledge, other than your results that you are talking about. Rob is not selling anything or recommending that somebody spend a large sum of money on a system that he claims to have made money. Therefore, there is no need for him to show anything. He is not trying to take any money out of our pockets. You are, even if that money will be going to your mentor rather than to you yourself. I am not going to accuse you of shilling, but recommending that we purchase something, and then refusing to provide proof that that something does what you say it can do, is usually called “shilling”. Paul June 21, 2016 Anther thing also. i see David Adams is being promoted here. I can tell you that DA is a complete fraud. he tried to rip me off 2k. You can read about it on T2w. Just google David Adams Trade2win. And he does trade sim and never disclosures it. sam June 22, 2016 If that was your post on t2w calling out Adams then it’s appreciated Paul. Dean Handley even treid to apologize to someone for a premature review. I suspect the Robot can still be fooled by a sim session and hope Emmett checks on that. There are also NT tricks mentioned by others here to make a sim dom look like live and executions deleted and edited in the NT panels. Paul June 22, 2016 Sam. Yes it was my post. Amazing how these thing never really go away when the internet is involved. I don’t know but wouldn’t surprised if NT could be manipulated to show live. David Adams June 22, 2016 Paul, You and I both know what happened and you did get a refund. I was under DTS at the time and you bought my program from them for an outrageous price.. I think when you told me you were the “best” forex trader I could find I began to dislike you, To answer your question from another thread, I did have cancer at the time and stopped trading shortly thereafter. I did refund your money when DTS refused.. Heck , you were on a payment plan. Anyway, I paid it out of my pocket. I did enjoy your sqawking and threats tho.. Typical keyboard warrior. Paul June 22, 2016 Hi David, Its so good to hear from you. My FX trading is going great actually. I bet I’m making more than your SIM trading. You did refund me, but not after being threatened by lawyers and having Visa approach you. Have a read of Trade2win website, there are many others you have never refunded. Plus did you ever refund that poor guy from India Santosh who invested his life earnings in you.? you are nothing but scum and no doubt you have a terrible disease which many would say as Karma. However Its not my nature to wish bad on another and I hope you get well soon. David Adams June 22, 2016 All the people except Santosh were refunded, Paul. No lawyers contacted me, and you know it. I was forced to cover your money because DTS would not. Let’s say they didn’t have a high opinion of your integrity. So the money came out of my pocket and they kept your initial payment. On the bright side, that transaction led me to terminate my relationship with DTS, In doing that I was able to cut my charges by 66% and learned a great lesson. Don’t let other people make promises that are outrageous and impossible to achieve. Sorta like many of the trade rooms here. They were charging 5K and telling people they would make the money up on my trading with their 5K account. That is a tall, if not impossible order to fill and neither Russell Smalls (from Turtle Traders) and that guy who was the great white options trader, Chuck Hughes could possibly hope to succeed with those conditions. So I guess you did me a favor. Best of luck in your trading, glad you are prospering. Paul June 22, 2016 ” Let’s say they didn’t have a high opinion of your integrity.” You question my integrity.. Thats a joke, You are the person making false promises and scamming others, and yet you wonder why the same people get pissed off at you. Better slow down on that medication David. I guess thats your next excuse. Wait a minute, you have already used that one. I still think you should sort Santosh out. Do the right thing David. Quote from TW2 . “Congrats on your persistence which has finally led to your refund. I posted on here June 13th about my experience with him and after 6 months of promises and lies, I’m still waiting for my refund. futures614 is offline ” 2. ” I was snaked by this guy also. Promised a refund in 5-7 days on August 6. His supposed accountant, Colby Anderson, threatened me in an email. Just a bunch of promises. 3.More promises, but no refund. This guy is just a liar and a thief, IMO. He sent out an email several days ago with so-called “proof” of his winnings, but they aren’t broker statements, just screen captures from Ninja – easily faked. n7ekg is offline. Why didn’t you sort these people out and do the right thing? Beware david I’m a lot like Emmett and despise people like you ripping innocent people off by selling false promises and dreams. David Adams June 22, 2016 I’m tired of listening to your blather, most of it is the same loudmouth B.S. I endured during our short time together, greatest forex trader…lol To clear the record you can find three months of my results in the “introducing the robot” and each session is videotaped then and since. Pretty hard to argue with that, punk. All my trading is videotaped of authenticity, even the lousy ones. no go back to the hole you crawled out of…this incident was over 5 years ago and are still blowing out the ass over it. Paul June 23, 2016 Its awesome you are making so much trading , cough cough. If its true then pay the people you ripped off. The thing thats crawled out of hole is your dodgy past. Something that can never ever be denied. I bet you are on sim. And you income is from scamming others, As for the bot, who knows , that can most likely be circumnavigated somehow. If you pay Santosh his life earnings back I will ease up on you. How could you do that. You knew it was all he had. The poor guy, i feel for him. Sucked in by a snake oil salesman called King Sim David Adams. Paul July 2, 2016 “I have finally gone live today and what a Baptism of Fire it was for me. I was completely unprepared for how much of a different beast the live market is. I was stopped out for the day at 08:30 am. That’s terrible. The fills and slippage took me and caught me completely unaware. I got slippage on fills and my stops. Also it feels like the live market moves a lot faster than the Sim. For the last 2.5 months (on the simulator) I have been on a good solid run with something like 5 down days in that period and they have all been very small down days. No bigger than 6 ticks. Whereas my winners have been 10 ticks plus consistently. Wow. My head hurts from this eventful morning.” Paul July 2, 2016 Above from NOBSTRADING Rob B July 2, 2016 Man, I hate to say I told you so, but welcome to the Real World or trading. When I see a a glowing post of a trading room by someone who just joined or trading sim, I am like come back after a few months of trading live. Until Sim dollars are accepted somewhere it means nothing.This is why I was on Dave Adams for trading Sim. And I do not think Emmett should allow sim trading on his Robot either. I think Emmett is a little desperate to find a good review so he gives these scum bags every break in the world. Emmett, just because this industry is full of nothing but swindlers does not mean they should be given breaks. BTW, this rating on a curve is the real reason for the Emmett Curse. The only thing that shows any proof of profitable trading is actual brokerage statements from a live account. If there was a best of post section or learning the real world of trading section, I would nominate your post to be there. It should be required reading for want to be traders. How many suckers pay big bucks for some educator because they made money trading sim and then Wham Bam they go live to lose a fortune. Paul July 3, 2016 David Adams always has traded SIM. Can not even find his floor registration for when he claimed to be a floor trader. Apparently Sean from GZT disclosures he is on sim. https://futures.io/vendors-product-reviews/36275-goldenzonetrading-sean-kozak-4.html Paul July 3, 2016 I still believe GZT method has merit. I stated earlier that i am willing to set up a live account and post the results. This is still going to happen. As I also said I was waiting for a stock on the ASX to hit the market and that was where my capital was being concentrated. That stock came on the market @.031 has had a high of .036 my position was taken @ .02, .033. Am sitting on some nice returns already, however I’m holding for .10 to $1.00.I expect to take some profits to cover initial positions and will let the rest run. Once that is done i will fund the live account. Rob B July 3, 2016 Pretty much every Trading Room (TR) I have been in teaches clueless desperate underfunded individuals to scalp highly leverage and highly volatile instruments and do it by using bad money management techniques to boot. Could this ever be done? Yes during a massive bull market like the NASDAQ bubble, where everyday stocks broke out and just went up, but not in today’s market, which is why none of these con artist can show any proof. And BTW even most of the people that made money in the NASDAQ bubble did not trade the way these TRs teach or as I call it the fantasy world of trading. And to take it a step further this is the real reason for the Emmett Curse. If you put up a Gaussian Distribution Curve, with failed day traders trading the fantasy world way as these TR teach on the x-axis then most fail right away, the center of the curve, but just by pure luck some will be profitable for a period of time. Those get the Emmet 5 Star rating, but as time goes out further they all end up failing. If it would not be for dealing with all the nonsense scammers sending me false decimation, I would run a contest and offer a $10K award to anyone that show any proof they can trade the fantasy world over an extended period of time profitable and certain rules would have to be followed like not taking huge risk to luck out on a single trade. Those underfunded traders who are desperate to make extra money, will be more desperate after day trading. But I know no one wants to hear that, so back to the fantasy world. So if this is what GZT teaches then I for one look forward to your live trading results. And Please, Please, Please prove me wrong. I would love to be able to come in everyday and scalp some futures market and have an 80% win rate and take home money like a salary. Paul July 4, 2016 10k ,Over how many trades? 30 being the lowest statistical number where you can get an idea, however as you most likely know the higher the number the more accurate the statistics, .What is an extended period of time?. I will gladly take this challenge. And Emmett can use his robot if desired. How will you pay the 10k USD? I don’t know where you pull your 80% number from. Here is a very simple example. If you trade 1/3 r/r if you are hitting 3r you can make money on a 30% win rate. What you say in your above post is true. Underfunded, high leverage, buying a dream, getting a nightmare. In regards to the Gaussian Distribution Curve if you can not adapt to a changing market and tweak your system ofcourse you will encounter drawdown which can kill your account. The key to trading any market is to be able to change and adapt. Even the Turtles had to do that . Which I have studied for yrs and use that method as my primary position/swing method. Rob B July 4, 2016 I am too busy right now to fully respond, but first the turtles did not trade the way most TR teach, These TR are not teaching swing trading. They tell people with a $5K account they can trade CL by coming in every day and micro scalping and have an 80% win rate and quit their job with their new day trading salary. That is what I say no one can do profitable over an extended period of time. And no 30 trades is not an extended period of time. I am talking at least 1 year. Paul July 4, 2016 1yr, You’re on. As soon as Phillipcapital Singapore get the exchange listings I will begin. However I am looking at the Nikkei in Asian session at present. Similar to the ES. From Ninja Brokerage. Thank you, Wade Headrick | Sales Associate | NinjaTrader Brokerage [email protected] | http://www.ninjatrader.com “We will also be offering additional international exchanges in the near future through Phillip Capital. These will include Asian and Australian futures exchanges. We do not currently offer those as of yet. I hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any questions.” For a start i won’t be starting with 5K. To my knowledge GZT have never said you can begin with 5k. 10k min and 20k -30k preferred. No overnight holding. Although I am aware many, if not most claim you can trade their system and win while being totally undercapitalized. I have traded the Turtle Method for many yrs. I know it very well. In Fact , it’s one of my daily analysis programs I do most mornings. Its the beginning of my top down analysis. Paul July 27, 2016 http://www.mytradingbuddy.com/blog/category/forex/ Sean Kozak trading trading real money. sam July 27, 2016 Well, RobB seems to be on vacation or something. Is there a youtube link? The rest of the article is only available to registered mytradingbuddy blog members. Paul July 28, 2016 Notsure Sam, Its good to see him trade real money all the same. Paul July 28, 2016 You can just register and watch the recordings.He shows his DOM also. They are relatively recent. Sean’s been trading live for a long time. Sometimes in the trade room he doesn’t because he’s teaching and explaining strategy. sam July 28, 2016 No thanks. I’d rather not have to register for a site I’d never heard of just to see some proof and incur more junk mail. I’ll wait for Emmett’s review to verify if it’s live results. There’s the “hypothetical” and “educational purposes only” disclaimer on this page. http://goldenzonetrading.com/disclaimer/ Emmett Moore July 28, 2016 I have spoken to Kozac. He told me that he does not trade with a live account. Does he offer something of value? Time will tell. I get a emails from a few of his students. Some get really pissed of because “after hour trades” magically appear on the official track record. But truth be told, just have not had time to really get my hands dirty with it. There could be some value. Time will tell. Need more time! Need more help with this blog. Paul July 28, 2016 He sometimes trades Asia which could explain the after hour trades. The link I posted he is trading live. Robert B August 23, 2016 Reality in seeing the truth can be somewhat painful when your believes are build on suspicion and bad experiences. Rob B July 4, 2016 Paul, OK, even though I have talked about this in other post, let me be crystal clear what I am talking about. I am not going to have a $10K challenge that you cannot trade like the Turtles did or swing trade. I come in everyday looking for trades (don’t always find them), so I am not having a challenge that you cannot trade the way I trade and do it profitable. That would be insane. The challenge would be that you could not profitable trade a live account via the complete non sense way the vast majority of the trading rooms teach. So what is that “Fantasy World” of trading they teach?: 1) You can trade some highly leverage highly volatile instrument such as CL, 2) You can do this with some small account like $5,000, 3) You can come in every day rain or shine no matter the market condition and make 10 or more scalps a day. Heck I just saw some BM Webinar where they were making money hand over fist with close to 50 scalps in CL a day. Complete F’ing BS, 4) You can do this with an 80% win rate, 5) You can do this with virtually no drawdown, 6) You can do this and have a straight up equity curve, 7) And you can quit your day job as you make money every day trading like a salary. Day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year. I am sure I am forgetting some things. This is the complete nonsense that Trading Rooms teach. The basically tell people they can trade white noise profitable. Now in reality would I have such a challenge? Probably not as the time to set rules and to verify all the fake evidence that would be presented would be a full time plus job. But I am pretty sure my money would be safe. There is a reason none of these con artist day trading room can ever show proof. There is always the 1 in 1000 chance someone can do it for a period of time, but right after that they too will fail. And there is always the possibility we go into another Tech Bubble Bull market and under those conditions it can be done. But I tell you these trading rooms are genius and there is a reason they have run all the honest folks out of business. No one wants to hear the truth. I know as I skype with these delusional traders all the time. Fact don’t matter. They just want to believe. I will say, “Doesn’t it bother you that no one can show proof of being able to do this bother you” and they just get angry with me. They want to be positive. I do not care how positive you want to be you are not going to calculate the last digit of Pi and you are not going to trade the Fantasy World of day trading profitable over any extended period. rtchoke July 4, 2016 Paul, Yes, you have some profit on the Sim trader. Let us know when the real trading gets profitable and I mean profitable over a period of time, not just 1 or 2 trades. Do you know the term ROR (Risk of Ruin). If not, you might investigate that. Trading is all about risk. How much can you lose? What are the odds of profit versus loss? Risk. Risk. Risk. I can’t emphasize that enough. The risk is even greater when you trade stocks that trade for under $1 and especially if you are trading around the market open. I wish you luck with your account. Paul July 4, 2016 rtchoke, I don’t really value the results on sim. Its just a method to learn a platform before going live. I totally disagree with your shares under $1.00 statement. Perhaps trading one of the most corrupt markets that being US stocks you are most likely correct, But I’m not. I trade ASX stocks and have a firm understanding on the ones i buy and have been doing it successfully since early 90’s. So I don’t need any advice on that thank you. Ofcourse I understand risk to ruin, rate of return,position sizing and all the rest. rtchoke July 4, 2016 Great, good for you. As I said, let us know when you are posting results from live trading. If those results are anything like what you say you’ve been doing since 1992, then that posting should be fantastic. Good luck. Paul July 4, 2016 My live ASX results are totally different than trading a futures account. I won’t be posting ASX results. As they have very little to do with this forum. You will know when i begin trading live futures. In fact I already am via a CFD account. However, that is different again. How can you even suggest my futures live results are going to anything like my ASX results. Do you actually understand the difference between the two products? The reason I”m moving into futures and commodities is a simple progression and upskilling. However I know where the big money for me is made and its not either of those. .. And as for GZT and all the others. Where do you begin? I believe GZT, FT71, Jigsaw, Stage5 , Jim Dalton, TJS Elite spreadsheet will give me the foundation to be profitable. Unlike many people . I believe in myself and that may be the big difference. Perhaps you can post your live results as well? Good luck rtchoke July 4, 2016 You posted: “I stated earlier that i am willing to set up a live account and post the results. This is still going to happen. As I also said I was waiting for a stock on the ASX to hit the market and that was where my capital was being concentrated. That stock came on the market @.031 has had a high of .036 my position was taken @ .02, .033. Am sitting on some nice returns already, however I’m holding for .10 to $1.00.I expect to take some profits to cover initial positions and will let the rest run. Once that is done i will fund the live account. . . ” That was what I responded to, there was no mention of futures. Of course you can’t compare the two types of instruments. I’m glad you have so much faith in yourself, that’s terrific. I’ve been trading for over 15 years, but i’m not selling anything nor do I have any plans to start a chat room, so no I don’t need to post my results. I don’t have anything to prove. You obviously feel the need to challenge me and others who have commented on the rooms you are talking about. There’s really no need to do that. What I feel I can offer to this forum are a few tips on trading that I’ve learned the hard way that perhaps can save some of the newer traders some time, energy and money and set them about doing the hard work of becoming a consistently profitable trader (emphasis on “consistently”). Listen, I was a veritable philanthropist in my early trading days. I gave money to whatever stock or future showed itself to me. It took a long time and a lot of hard work to get it right and until I developed my own system which did and still does work very well. If my posts don’t reflect what you feel is helpful, then just ignore the post. Again, let me repeat, I’m not selling anything. But I do enjoy what Emmett is trying to do here. Osikani July 2, 2016 That looks like a quote. Are you reporting your own experience or somebody else’s? In another post you stated that you have been live trading 4 different instruments or so all this while, so how can you now “… have finally gone live today and what a Baptism of Fire it was”? Paul July 4, 2016 NoBStrading quote. Osikani June 22, 2016 David Adams is not being promoted; he is simply being reported on, just as all other reviews are reports. Rob B June 21, 2016 Paul, I have talked about the way I trade in other posts. I seriously doubt anyone is interested in my results as they are horrible compared to the fantasy TRs promise. To be clear you said Sean did all the things I said a TR needs to do, but in fact he does none of those things. That is part of what pisses me off. Someone else posted showing Sean only showed Excel Spreadsheets. That just screams shill to me. “So its your opinion that someone should only post if they are trading live with a particular system?” No I would not say that exactly. But I find it funny you give a TR a glowing review that shows no proof of profitable trading when you yourself admit you have not made one single dime with his method. So here is what I am saying to be clear. I would say to others to give no credence to such a referral. To me your referral is just completely meaningless. “Been trading ASX stocks since 92 and made a small fortune” Hmm, then why bother with GZT. I must admit I make a decent return on my money trading but no small fortune so your self-proclaimed trading prowess is unproven, yet impressive. Stick with it. “Your cynicism just gets stronger , why? “ Why because I hate shills. It is just that simple. No none affiliated person post what you posted. I have had discussions with non affiliated poster and they just do not post mindless promotions like you are doing. “Which platform do you use? And data feed?” Not that any of this matters, but I will answer some of your question. I use 2 main platforms; Trade Station and MultiCharts. My main Brokers are TradeStation and Interactive Broker. I also have Ninja Trader, but I do not trade futures any more. I will trade an ETF that mimics a future. Believe it or not I use absolutely zero leverage. Well that is not 100% true as I will trade a leveraged ETF now and then. “I bet your answer be similar to all the scammers on the net that you so rightly despise.” I am not selling anything or promising fantasy results and I will be the first to say don’t trust anyone in this business including me. If I open a TR run for the hills. And for Goodness sake don’t email me. I already talk to enough Kool-Aid drinking idiots. I really need to get a life and not be fighting with people like this. Paul June 21, 2016 To be clear you said Sean did all “the things I said a TR needs to do, but in fact he does none of those things. That is part of what pisses me off. Someone else posted showing Sean only showed Excel Spreadsheets” Has anyone here asked GZT for a TR pass so they can ask these questions?. I too read the thread on Big Mikes ,however that’s just one person out of 100’s who have done his course i assume.. Why aren’t they posting negative reviews? Its all a bit strange to me. I”m not here to defend GZT . I was just reporting my experience with GZT so far. Why doesn’t some here get a live TR pass and ask the difficult questions and see what the real deal is. As I’m already in the system its a bit late however I will ask for live results. I love ASX stocks. And moving into futures was an expansion in my trading ability for the simple reason, its a passion.,Plus when i travel overseas its nice to have the option of making an income as when i travel its for months not days or weeks. Platforms i use Ninja, Trade Navigator, Pulse, Etrade. and another unknown one from Perth Australia FCpro charts. Rob B June 22, 2016 “I”m not here to defend GZT . I was just reporting my experience with GZT so far. “ and “As I’m already in the system its a bit late however I will ask for live results.” Paul, if you had said in the original thread you had never taken a live trading using GZT and you had never asked for or seen any live results, as you now state, I would have been more pleasant in my post. “Why aren’t they posting negative reviews?” There was more than one negative comment in that BMT thread with the last guy saying they just did an extensive update to the whole program. But to answer your question. I think most people that get scammed do not post negative review because the TR operators convinces them by use of shills it is just them that does not get it. I skype with traders all the time that are embarrassed by their loses and they tell me they just cannot understand why they cannot get it. And I tell them it is not them and they need to come to this site to learn the truth about this industry. I think Emmett’s site is finally turning that around by showing 99.9% of TR are nothing but a scam. You are the one that posted about David Adams not refunding you? Now that is too funny. As you admit the fact you already paid the $7K, I understand you want to have a positive believe in GZT. Believe I get it and I wish you the best, so I will just be nice here and just say: I look forward to you posting those live GZT trade results as you promised. Paul June 22, 2016 i have opened a live account with AMP, just needs more funding. Have a stock backdoor listing by the end of the month so am keeping capital aside for that, should be a ripper. Plan is really to wait for Phillipcapital Singapore. Go live with a a decent size account. The plan was to continue demo till then. The other thing i didn’t mention I,ve been using GZT to trade live Dax, NQ, YM and CL via my CFD platform. The signals are pretty good so far . . Yes GZT have done a huge update, which obviously is concerning. but so far seems to be working ok. Will take another week or two to get used to it. However having studied Jim Dalton, Goran Futures71, and Opentrader pro course prior i’ve found adapting easy as i was already in the market for a Market Profile indi for NT, so am happy to have it now. Its a awesome MP indi. The thing with this update they are using market profile/footprint coded for ninja. , If you own Ninja and wanted this indicator , is its worth the $1000? IMHP, yes.. Because to get that detail in an indicator you need to go to Market Delta and then you only lease the platform. Plus the MD platform isn’t as good good as the GZT add on. But that’s for others to decide. I know other platforms have MP such as Sierra Charts and a few others. Also my Trade Navigator has it now as well. Paul June 22, 2016 ROB, just to verify your /my statement I believe I have seen Sean trading live in the trade room and showing what seem to be live results . However I have not seen a brokers statement. If splitting hairs I am trading CFD’s via GZT method on a CFD account, which is different than a futures account that i was referring to. Paul June 22, 2016 Another thing. I never admitted i paid 7K, they are your words. Rob B June 22, 2016 You stated, “. As I’m already in the system its a bit late however I will ask for live results.” I only saw where GZT had a 1 day trial and then it was the $7K course. Is there another deal or did you get a special deal? Paul, I know from talking to people that want to believe no logic matters. But you read this blog. One con artist after the next con artist after the next. Now if I was Sean and ran a TR and could trade profitably, unless I am completely in outer space I would realize I am the “Unicorn” – The very very very rare TR educator / Live TR that can actually trade a live account profitably. I would be contacting Emmett every day and saying here are my brokerage statements for the last several years showing the profits I made day trading. I would be posting my track record at my web site alongside my brokerage statements. And you know what; in that live trading room you would have 1000s of subscribers. So then the question comes why he does not. Sure you can come up with all types of reasons, but I will go with occam razor – he shows no proof because he cannot show any proof. Again I cannot wait for those live trading results. Here is my wild ass prediction. I see in the future you demanding a refund from GZT just like you did David Adams. Prove me wrong and keep us posted. David Adams June 22, 2016 Rob, you can give up on talking with this guy as his favorite sound is his own voice. Straight-up asshole. Paul June 23, 2016 True , the sound of keys tapping REFUND. Paul July 1, 2016 “he shows no proof because he cannot show any proof.” Sadly i think you are correct. If you are selling a product for people to trade live and you are not, then is that not fraud in someway? Is there any law in regards to this? Americans love to sue, surely there is a case. He is in canada, assume similar. Paul July 4, 2016 This is a good post and perhaps it explains many things , especially about sim trading. By VolTrading . https://futures.io/vendors-product-reviews/36275-goldenzonetrading-sean-kozak-4.html Paul June 21, 2016 Additionally to GZT and trading short time period I do have some conflict within as I like trading the daily chart which is where i seem to make more for less input. Paul July 2, 2016 I love looking at the ocean. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYhxaZXXwsg&index=2&list=RDMMNgBQJDQbeFA sam June 20, 2016 Mindless advertisiment nonsense it is. It doesn’t sound like “open” accounts here. On the gzt website, there is no mention of records or results. I have no doubt if Emmett reviewed gzt, it’ll be the same as many others, no real proof. https://futures.io/vendors-product-reviews/36275-goldenzonetrading-sean-kozak.html#post524056 http://powerpoint.designcrowd.com/contest.aspx?id=499929 Paul June 21, 2016 I would love Emmett to review GZT. Paul April 29, 2017 The difference between you and I Rob, I don’t need to trade or work. It’s a passion to me. And I fully respect what Emmett is doing on this website and exposing the many charlatans. Perhaps you are one them also. Rob B April 29, 2017 Paul, Here is the difference. You have been posting mindless fact less advertisements under various alias like Mongo and Paul for a year now, yet can show not a lick of evidence to back up your claims. No one here wants to read your baseless claims. Show proof of your claims. You are just like every other shill that comes to this site with just BS advertising and no proof what so ever and when called out, you just post nonsense distractions. All you are doing is coming here and hawking your nonsense TR and people are suppose to trust you. Give me a break! NO ONE HERE IS FOOLED BY YOUR CONSTANT NONSENSE. Paul April 29, 2017 Get out and enjoy life, Rob. You spend far too much time writing novels about trade rooms. I never read your post. Not worth my precious time. Rob B April 29, 2017 Paul, I have all the time in the world if I can save one person from being scammed by you and the other TR operators. Man, it is just mind boggling how you will post anything and everything, except for the only thing that matters and that is proof of any your claims. Ah, of course you can not as you are just promoting the same con artist trading room over and over again. Apparently you only have precious time to post non sense advertisements to scam people out of their money. Great human being you are. Paul April 30, 2017 LOL, Why would I bother to do that? No one here has any money. LMAO Stray Dog April 30, 2017 It took awhile but we’ve finally reached it, the point where the shill trots out the last lame excuse as to why they won’t post any proof of their claims. Take your show elsewhere Paul, this audience isn’t buying it. You have more stamina than I do Rob B. Paul April 30, 2017 I think the show should remain here just to keep entertaining the clowns. Don’t you people have anything better to do than just bitch about everything. Get out and enjoy life. That’s right, this is your sad sorry arse life. Rob B April 30, 2017 Paul, I will tell you what is sad and sorry and that is you constantly coming here promoting con artist trading rooms. And when folks ask for some proof of your TR claims you post nonsense replies like above. I would say get on with your life, but clearly going around trying to scam folks is your life. Maybe you should actually read your own post and see how ridiculous they read. They make you and the TR Operator you promote look like fools Mike M May 1, 2017 Seriously, the consistency you guys exhibit commenting on sites you believe are frauds is on par with someone selling trash education. I enjoy reading the back and forth comments, but I still don’t know where you get the energy. It looks like the nonsense fuels your diligence. Paul May 1, 2017 They are damaged goods, been burnt too many times and don’t have the ability to move on. dtchum May 1, 2017 There are bout 6 of these “since I can’t trade obviously no one can” people trolling this forum. They act like they are Emmett, patrolling the trading rooms. Really they are just losing traders with time and regret on their hands. I’d love to see rob, stray, churn, cy, and some others take you up on the challenge. But they won’t, and they will all have a lame excuse. Rob B May 1, 2017 DTChump or whatever alias you are going by, it is the responsibility of the TR Operator who is making wild claims of profitability to show proof of their claims. If you do not see that then you are seriously mentally disturbed, which I already realize from you past posts. dtchurn May 2, 2017 I bet dtchamp is either Pete or tradingfratboy. The investigators are getting that much closer to locating where the white ferrari was rented from hah. dtchum May 2, 2017 Welcome back! Are you ready to provide trading proof, since you previously stated how very successful trader you are now, as you previously stated you would? Paul May 1, 2017 The challenge is open to them. We can all post broker statements as we can also scan and make them look excellent like PFG Best did for yrs. Set up some live trading accounts and give Emmett access to those accounts is the most honest and transparent way to do this. Stray Dog May 1, 2017 Here’s a challenge Paul that actually makes sense. Get the vendor to give Emmett access to his trading statements. I’m not selling a $7,000 course, Rob B isn’t selling a $7,000 trading course the only person who is, is the vendor that you are trying to promote here. dtchum May 1, 2017 Stray and Rob are technically not selling a course themselves, but both have previously been exposed as shills for others (Rob, for example, recommended Dr. B in a few posts). So let’s have all the shills participate in this Trading Challenge! Rob B May 1, 2017 DTChump no one can be this big of a moron. I have called out all these con artist at one point. Nowhere have I ever recommended Al Brooks. I think you at one time point out one of my post where I was clearly being sarcastic. So try to get this through your thick head, I say all these TR operators are con artist. There is no exception. If that is you idea of a shill then you are beyond help. dtchurn May 2, 2017 There must be thousands of lurking readers that are grateful to RobB and Stray for keeping watch on the fort. Amazing that the shills are also trying to rewrite the history of the comments. RobB and Stray have never shilled for any vendor. Adams tried to ingratiate himself in the commentary. So did Alex Sobiel/Seilaff. They were given a chance initially to prove themselves, but they ended up being just typical babbling room shamsters in the end or refund scammers So do a few other vendors try to mimic RobB and Stray’s criticism of vendor tricks by preaching to the choir. Now I wonder if this is even the same Paul. Look at the older posts of 9 to 10 months ago. The old Paul seemed to be more reasonable and said he was going to go live and prove profitable trading due to GZT in a year and show broker statements etc. Those posts were 9 months ago, so he has 3 months left. RobB had some great posts showing the illogic of the shills. I mean, why should anyone fork over 7k for a “mastery” program, 1.5k for an indicator suite without proof especially proof from former students. The site looks like any other of the thousands of sites from the ninjacesspool or the many similar sites already reviewed on tradingschools. How is GZT really any different from the usual sham tradingschool. Anyways, it would be a shame if the shills took over the tradingschool comments where it would be no different from all the other shilled so called review sites and compromised forums. Stray Dog May 1, 2017 dtchump, it is difficult to fathom that anyone can be as dim witted as you appear to be. Just because you say something does not make it true. Find the post where I have been a shill for any trade room vendor. Reproduce it. Paul May 1, 2017 Think they were even promoting David Adams. LMAO. Perhaps he is the one who burnt them so badly. Stray Dog May 1, 2017 Seems that you were also dropped on your head as a child or are you naturally stupid? Find the post and reproduce it here. Rob B May 2, 2017 Paul, Wow! It is really hard to reply to someone whose posts are 99% fact free. It is like revisionist history. Next you will be posting the earth is square. So I am just going to recap the actual facts, I know this is a concept you do not understand, but here are the undisputed facts: 1) Paul has been a shill for GZT for almost a year now on this forum and posted over 10 months ago, “ I am a mastery student of his and there is no BS” and stated, “I personally have watched Sean trade live many times”, yet 2) Sean has told Emmett he does not trade live, 3) GZT makes wild promises of profitability, 4) GZT sells a course for $7,000, 5) GZT has never shown any proof they can trade profitably, 6) When Paul is asked to show any proof of his claims, he refuses and then post anything and everything (complete nonsense) to distract from the fact neither he nor GZT can show any proof they can trade the way they teach profitably, 7) Paul stated, “not much point as with the GZT method I am still on Sim”. So this mastery student (his words) is promoting nonstop a method he himself will not even trade live, 8) Then over 10 months ago Paul wrote, “In the future when i have at least 30 live trades logged i will gladly post live results”. WTF in over 10 months Paul still has not taken those 30 live trades?, 9) Then once again Paul wrote;” I stated earlier that i am willing to set up a live account and post the results. This is still going to happen. “ Yet he never does!! 10) Then Paul wrote: “I have finally gone live today and what a Baptism of Fire it was for me. I was completely unprepared for how much of a different beast the live market is. I was stopped out for the day at 08:30 am. That’s terrible. The fills and slippage took me and caught me completely unaware. I got slippage on fills and my stops. Also it feels like the live market moves a lot faster than the Sim. For the last 2.5 months (on the simulator) I have been on a good solid run with something like 5 down days in that period and they have all been very small down days. No bigger than 6 ticks. Whereas my winners have been 10 ticks plus consistently. Wow. My head hurts from this eventful morning.” **** Well, Welcome to the real world of trading Paul****** I could go on and on, but the bottom line is even though Paul repeatedly states he was going to show proof that the GZT method can be traded profitably, he never has been able to do it and this has been going on over a 10 months’ time frame, which is why my replies to Paul are not so friendly. Now Paul unlike your fact less post, I just posted actual facts than anyone can search and see are accurate and true. Rob B May 1, 2017 Paul, Normally when reply to shill nonsense, I say, “I can have a more intelligent conversation with my cat”, but in your case I think I will say, “I can have a more intelligent conversation with a cockroach”. Your challenge is equivalent to someone looking to get a house built and they see some contractor advertise he is a great house builder, so they ask the contractor for proof that he has actually built homes and instead of providing any proof, he challenges them to a race and says see you won’t race me so that is my proof. It is beyond stupid!! I in no way trade the way this TR operator (YOU) claim to trade, so I surely cannot proof your method works, which by the way I am 100% sure it does not. Are you planning to just now trade the method live? If you are trading this method so profitable then all you have to do is show Emmett proof of those profitable trades using the method shown on those videos. If you make 1 cent you will have at least some proof, but I doubt you will make a penny. Trying to have a conversation with a con artist is impossible, but try and answer these questions: 1) Are you actually trading the BS method you teach in a live account profitable?, 2) If so then why can you not show Emmett proof of profitable trading?, 3) How in the world does anyone else trading method results prove your course will make one a profitable trader? And finally 4) Why instead of showing any proof of your wild claims you just post nonsense again and again. Now those are the Real Question to be answered!! dtchum May 1, 2017 TL;DR Stray Dog May 1, 2017 Don’t try to redirect the narrative. Shill Paul has made claims on behalf of a vendor. The onus is on him to prove those claims. Your limited capacity to understand and follow the discussion has been well documented in your previous posts so I’m trying to make this as easy for you to follow as possible. dtchum May 1, 2017 So does that mean you are chickening out of the challenge? Rob B May 1, 2017 The only challenge that make any sense to anyone with any sense is for the TR operator who is making wild claim of profitability and selling a $7,000 course, in this case Paul, to show proof he can trade his BS method profitably. No one else track record will prove that. Lets say every other trader on the planet is losing money, that does not prove the TR operator who is making fantasy promises is making money. Seriously can you really not understand this! Stray Dog May 1, 2017 The challenge is for Paul to prove the value of the vendor’s product he is shilling for. Only that needs to be proved. Were you dropped on your head as a child or did you have to work at being stupid? Rob B May 1, 2017 Paul, All you post are the same broken record for a year now. Nonsense claims with no proof what so ever. So instead of just repeating myself replying to your BS, I am just going to make a visual reply which I think summarized everything. Paul May 1, 2017 http://goldenzonetrading.com/software/free-indicators/ Paul May 1, 2017 What a complete joke you are. You conveniently forget that it was I who challenged you to trade against me on 10k LIVE account for 30 days or longer, I don’t care as I’m trading anyway, just means segregating some funds.Emmett could have full access to those accounts. The account can be larger if you want? Yet you made all the excuses not to take the challenge. What difference does it make to your portfolio if you are actually already trading? Just segregate 10k or more, up to you. Then those live statements will speak for themselves. That is my challenge to you. Either take it or pull your head and get a LIFE/wife or even a Stray Dog. If you can not trade then perhaps you should watch some GZT videos. Plenty of free ones around so you don’t need to hassle me about trying to sell GZT products. It’s all free. dtchum May 1, 2017 I would love to see this. Comment trolls will never accept a challenge though Rob B May 1, 2017 Paul, When your best friend is DTChump, you know you are in trouble. The odd thing is another shill just made the same nonsense challenge to me. You shills go by so many aliases I cannot keep up with them. At this point I am 100% convinced you are either the TR operator or associated with the room so from now when if I say TR operator I am referring to you. You have been posting promotional BS for over a year here and yet you cannot show any proof what so ever that GZT trades profitable. In fact I have responded to your nonsense post here before and even checked out GZT videos of hindsight trading and told you to show proof back then. And in that entire year you have not shown any proof, but just continue with nonsense promotional ads. It is a complete WOT to even respond to your posts as you will never show any proof. You have had over a year to do so and have refused and that is because your goal is just to scam people. My response from a year ago is just as legit today so I repeat it in quotes at the end of this post and as I stated then your goal is simple and that is: Get newbies to take your free trial whereby no one can evaluate performance and there will be ton of shills stating how they are knocking it out of the park and went from broke to making a living after taking the $7,000 course. Again responding to someone who’s sole purpose is to scam people and who refuse to have an type of intelligent conversation or show proof of their wild claims is a WOT but for shits and grins I will give it my best effort: 1) How in the world does you beating me in a short term day trade challenge provide any proof the TR you keep promoting can trade profitable over time? 2) I have already offered to show Emmett an entire years’ worth of my trading statements. As I have also stated, recently I have been focused on Real Estate and not trading so most of my trades will be over a short period. So you could do the same show back 1 year proof of your profitable trading. But so far you have refused to show any proof what so ever of your complete nonsense claims of profitability, 3) You want to setup a challenge with trading parameters that are not the way I trade. After spending years and thousands of hours I state the way these Day TR operators teach is nonsense and I do not trade that way. I trade the way I trade and offer to show back an entire year of my trading to Emmett. But again none of this proves the TR operator can trade profitable. It is up to you to show actual proof the TR operator can profitable trade the way he claims. So if you want the challenge I also get to set up the parameters not just you. Being I do not day trade and say it is a pure fools game, I will not take a single day trade, so all you have to do is make 1 cent and you will win the challenge. Surely a great trader like you can do that. Somehow I doubt it. But the funny thing is this just goes back to what I keep saying, “Just Show Proof the TR Operator can Trade Profitable. Yet you still refuse to show any proof of your claims and make nonsense challenges. I should reword that and say you cannot show any proof as the TR cannot trade profitable. You are just being willfully stupid as you do not need to beat me day trading, you only need to show proof the TR operator can trade profitable. Just as you are being willfully stupid in your replies you will be willfully stupid in any competition. I cannot help but wonder how dumb you must think the readers here are that anyone will think GZT is real based on you complete BS posts. Seriously how hard is it for you to show proof GZT can indeed trade profitable. APPARENTLY IT IS IMPOSSIBLE!!!!! Therefore you continue to post anything and everything except any proof of your claims. Now let me take out my crystal ball and make some prediction: 1) You will refuse to show how you profitable day traded over the last year (my challenge) , 2) You will continue, into the future, to refuse to show any proof you; the TR operator; can trade profitable what so ever, and finally 3) You will just continue to post BS advertisement hoping to sucker in newbies. Anyone willing to take a bet me on my prediction?? The day the regulators get serious and start locking up con artist as yourself will be one of the happiest days in my life. Response from a year ago, which is just as true today: “Paul, You say skeptic, I say realist after realizing this entire industry is nothing but swindlers selling a pipe dream. I no longer trade the complete non sense way the con artist Trading Educators teach, but for the Shits and Grins I checked out Golden Zone Trading’s Youtube videos and their web site. You know what I saw? I saw the typical Trading Educator selling a $7,000 course with Supply Demand areas similar to what Sam Seiden teaches, telling people they too can make a living by taking numerous scalps a day trading a highly leverage and highly volatile instruments by using their Holy Grail S/D indicators. And to my Shock, Shock, Shock; guess what I did not see? Any actual proof of their claims as I outlined in my previous post and you stated they showed. Nowhere on their site did I see any type of track record what so ever. Heck they did not even have the decency to post a fake track record like most Trading Rooms do, more less a real track record showing their trading results everyday with actual entries and exits being posted alongside a brokerage statement with that Broker’s Name shown proving those entries. You see it is one thing to post a fake track record, but I am guess even the incompetent regulators might go after you if you post a fake brokers statement claiming live trading. So instead of proof you get a free trial day whereby no one can evaluate performance and there will be ton of shills stating how they are knocking it out of the park and went from broke to making a living after taking the $7,000 course. So Paul I call you out. Have your buddy Sean post his broker’s statement or show Emmett his broker’s statement’s live or use the robot to show real proof of this brilliant profitable trading. Or being you are doing so well with this system, you can do the above. Anything short of showing actual proof is complete BS advertisement as far as I am concerned.” Paul May 1, 2017 Do you really believe anyone in their right mind would read all that BS? I didn’t and am amazed at the length you go to trying to justify yourself. You won’t even take the challenge. Why? 1. you don’t have the guts to post under your real name. 2. damaged goods and has zero trading ability. Get over it. Paul May 1, 2017 You can take my challenge and put this to bed once and for all. I suggest using Interactive Brokers. Rob B May 1, 2017 Paul, Your are beyond pathetic with you nonsense. I more than stepped out to the challenge and you are so stupid you apparently cannot even read my post to know that. Try actually reading and take the challenge. As you are the TR making wild claims of profitability it is you that needs to show proof of your claims, not anyone else. But again I stepped up to the silly challenge and gave you options. But I seriously doubt you will take any challenge as my guess is you have never traded live as you actually admitted to Emmett and it will always be BS advertising from you. I must include my image of Paul the TR operator Scam artist. Stray Dog May 1, 2017 It is necessary to respond to shills and to challenge them. If we don’t, then this blog will become as useless as investiscammers, Big Mike’s futures IO and a host of other sites that allow vendors to make claims without any proof of those claims. So Paul has initially posted a glowing recommendation for a vendor who charges UD$7,000 for a course. There is no proof that the course results in profits for those who purchase it so the onus has been placed on Paul to prove that it works for him. He has admitted that he only trades this product in sim so I’ve suggested that even with it being a sim account show us those returns. Rather than doing that he’s gone from dancing around showing any proof that the $7,000 course he wants people to buy actually works, to insults towards anyone who challenged him to show proof and to now trying to distract and misdirect the course of the narrative. Paul, you can simply prove that this $7,000 course works by showing your trading statements. You don’t need a contest you just need to show proof. What does a contest prove? How does that prove that this $7,000 course is worth the money being asked for it? What does it add to the central issue here which is, is this course that you are trying to promote worth the $7,000 price tag? What is achieved by a contest that your brokerage statements or better still the vendor’s brokerage statements wouldn’t achieve? I know it is tiring to read this constant back and forth but it does need every sensible reader to take the fight to shills like Paul to show proof. It can’t be left up to one person to do this. This is the only site where a vendor’s claims are held to a reasonable standard of proof. We have to maintain that standard. Stray Dog April 30, 2017 Here’s how this conversation would have gone if Paul had any proof of his claims. Paul: This TR is the real deal, it’s the best thing ever, I’m making heaps of money, everyone in the room is making heaps of money, the TR owner walks on water. Rob B: You’re full of s*#%t Paul, prove it! Paul: Why of course Rob B. Here are my trading statements for you to stick where the sun doesn’t shine. END OF DISCUSSION But what do we have when Paul is pressed for that proof? After the excuses run out the insults begin. Paul, I for one would love it if you were making serious cash and if you are it’s the easiest thing in the world to prove, hell I’ll even take your sim trades as something to evaluate but if you don’t even have those, if all you’ve got are more excuses and insults you really are doing a disservice to yourself and the TR you are shilling for. Paul April 30, 2017 Pardon me sunshine where the sun does not shine. Rob B April 30, 2017 Paul, Just more nonsense post by the relentless advertiser. I love how you posted: “I never read your post. Not worth my precious time.” More lies as you continue to reply to my post that you self-claim you do not read. Just lies on top of lies as you promote your scamming trading room. You post everything but any proof of your claims. You shills are nothing but a broken record of relentless claims of profitability yet can not show any proof of your claims. I hope one day the regulators lock all of you in jail and then you will have plenty of precious time to not be scamming others. Your profession IMHO is among the scummiest industries that exists. Paul April 30, 2017 Rob. B the bitter Charleton. Trademark me. The Bitter Charlatan. I still haven’t read your post. Y would I? Paul April 28, 2017 Sean Kozak trading real money. Sean also admits he trades sim in the trade room. I personally have watched Sean trade live many times. http://goldenzonetrading.com/trade-videos/live-trading-recaps/ Reply Emmett Moore April 28, 2017 Sean Kozak does not trade with a live, real money account. He told me so. Doesn’t give me much confidence. Paul April 28, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saX2fx4wa3g&list=PLgkNw5fl7QdCf77fsxYU-Brsyjqkpvkqp&index=4 Notsure what you call this then. Paul April 28, 2017 Emmett, Can you please delete the above post “live Trading Recaps” Emmett Moore April 28, 2017 Hi Paul, Sure I can remove. Just not sure what you want removing? Its sort of tough for me to keep up with comments. Hundreds are posted all over the blog, each day. I dont follow each comment. Paul April 28, 2017 I thought it had a link attached to GZT members area which I never intended to attach. Paul April 30, 2017 Qoute I spoke with him about 1.5 years ago, he said he was not. Maybe he started trading live? ” Whoops, Is it another Sachs error? Paul April 28, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saX2fx4wa3g&list=PLgkNw5fl7QdCf77fsxYU-Brsyjqkpvkqp&index=4 Better link Rob B April 28, 2017 Great, Paul is back with his silly advertisement. Do you need to drum up business to make a mortgage payment? I got an idea how about instead of, “Take my Word for it”, showing Emmett “Actual” Brokerage statements proving this scam artist can trade profitable. What a novel idea. Paul April 28, 2017 The review on Mark Sachs that Emmett wrote is an amazing read. That’s all I can say…LOL. What’s a mortgage payment? Haven’t had one for 20 yrs. Obviously, Rob B has one. You should buy some Cannabis shares pay your mortgage off with the profits. Emmett Moore April 28, 2017 Speaking of cannabis. I have a friend that made a nice living growing weed in the backyard, for many years. Until they legalized it. Prices plunged to less than tobacco. Now he grows organic tomatoes and cucumbers. Delivers them fresh to local restaurants. Makes more money selling tomatoes than weed. Go figure. Funny world. Paul April 28, 2017 It’s still a huge business here 5 k per lb. However, you can make a massive amount with the correct weed stocks. Rob B April 29, 2017 Paul, So you are living in your mom’s basement smoking weed. That explains your constant nonsense posts. This is not Scam-O-Pedia. We actually expect to see proof of your claims, which neither you or the TR operators you keep pumping can do. Until that TR does that then no one here is interested in your nonsense advertisements. Again in case you are too high to understand. PROOF IS THE ONLY THING WE ARE INTERESTED IN!! Yet instead of any proof all you can provide are distractions. Stray Dog April 30, 2017 Rob B … Mom say high dtchurn April 30, 2017 I’ll say this about Mark Sachs. He’s gone back to being a complete scam and deserves no more chances. His indicators are just modded ones from bmt with cosmetics. Any basic modder could come up with same or better ninjacript indicators. See the recent thread on elite where Sachs threatened to sue like a thug, a former client trying to get back a refund and failing that a credit charge cancellation. Pete April 30, 2017 Your argument is unsound because in the Heiken-Ashi comments you erroneously assumed I am totally blaming Al Brooks for my trading losses, therefore we can assume the Elitetrader thread involving Mark Sachs was also a case of a consumer who did not do THEIR DUE DILLIGENCE and is totally blaming Mark Sachs rather than taking personal responsibility for their actions, therefore Mark Sachs is absolved of responsibility. Paul May 1, 2017 I wonder who Rob and his clan are going to blame?? Because obviously, they won’t take responsibility for their psychologically damaged mindset. If those clowns can not trade then no one else can either….lol. I’m amazed they can even get beyond the CAPTCHA. Rob B May 1, 2017 Paul, Do you ever plan to make an intelligent post? I will try and keep this really simple for your obvious weak mind. Let’s say you are 100% right and all other traders are losing money. And even though I have offered to show a years worth of my trading results which show I made money, let’s say for argument sake I just lost money. None of that is any proof your con artist TR operator who is selling a $7,000 course can trade profitably. At some point even your mother must be ashamed of you and your nonsense. Just post after post of wild claims and no proof and then just attack anyone that ask for proof of your claims. Is your plan just to continue with nonsense post or do you ever plan to actually address the Real Questions I keep bringing up? Maybe you can just post: Hello, I am Paul the mindless shill who makes wild claims of profitable trading but will never show any proof of it. Just trust and buy my $7,000 course and if you ask for proof I will just attack you and post complete nonsense instead of addressing any real concerns. At least then you would be honest and I could respect you. The real sad story is anybody really dumb enough to buy this $7,000 course? dtchurn May 2, 2017 Unsound in your own head like the many inner voices in dr. No’s. How silly, all the hundreds of posts by petedetithbrooks littered all over tradingschools was out to get b__ks even though he’s an insignificant book author even often insanely accusing me of shilling. As Stray and Rob continued to tell you in Mook to take responsibility for your trading losses and quit trying to blather to others to send cftc complaints which no one is interested in doing so. Nonsense, Sachs was reported to have started shamming results again and hiding losses. It doesn’t get any more obvious scamster than that, and I’m inclined to believe the client’s story at the end of the elite thread than the words of a multiple felony-worthy plastic mutilator and pill pusher charged criminal Sachs. I will say this. after the debacle in pagetrader and the noshow of bmt b__ks event, these b__ks postings all a laughable joke now if not irrelevant noise. Now and then, I enjoy a chuckle thinking about the “retroactive” clawback after b__ks is retired. It’s so ludicrous trying to imagine it, it’s hilarious. Pete May 2, 2017 You mean little man, stop accusing others falsely of totally blaming others. I can request a review out of concern for future traders and that doesn’t make me amoral and have no sense of individual responsibility. It’s ironic you, Cyn, Rob, and Stray Dog come on here gawgking at frauds and victims and act holier-than-thou when it comes to helping others avoid frauds and recognizing that the frauds do indeed reduce individual autonomy. And stop saying Brooks is just a book author, he sells books, webinars, courses, trading expos, and futures magazine articles and maybe individual private consultations too. Rob B May 2, 2017 “and stop saying Brooks is just a book author” I am not sure anyone said that. I think what was said is that Al Brooks is relatively small potatoes compared to the many trading rooms that scam people out of thousand dollars for some nonsense trading course. He is still a con artist, but I think the point is does he need to be brought up in virtually every post across every thread? Damn!! I broke my own vow not to reply to anymore of Pete’s post regarding Al Brooks. Sorry. dtchum May 2, 2017 Of course, Deputy R, you take advantage of any chance to mention Dr. A. Keep his name out there, that is what the good ones do. Rob B May 2, 2017 Dtchump or Pete or whatever you are going by, I quoted and replied to Pete’s (yourself) own post. So by your insane logic it is Deputy P that keeps Dr. A. name going. So are you telling Deputy P to finally stop with his nonsense posting about Dr. A. In other words you are telling yourself to stop your own posting. Good Job! dtchum May 2, 2017 Thank you for confirming my suspicion for mentioning his name 2 times in YET ANOTHER post. Keep it goin, thats the pay to get paid. Rob B May 2, 2017 Dtchump, It is impossible to respond to the mentally disturbed. Pete, yourself via another alias, is the one that keeps mentioning Mr. Brooks name again and again in every post. You are just being willfully stupid or plain stupid. The verdict is still out. dtchurn May 2, 2017 yup, it’s no wonder the b__ks disease can’t be hidden with his alters, whether a mental gollum or baboon, lol. Stray Dog May 2, 2017 dtchump dtchurn May 2, 2017 Unlike gollum/drChump who doesn’t own up to anything, I did say b__ks was a book author RobB, albeit insignificant small potatoes, yes, especially in today’s world of myriad of kindle ebooks on price action and chart reading on amazon today many less than $10 which is what you can get for b__ks’ useless book for used. dtchum May 2, 2017 Their attacks on you are sad and it makes you wonder about their motivations for doing so ($$$$$). dtchurn May 2, 2017 lol, that your recent comments are more supportive of vendors and the recent shills on the boards says a lot about you considering your mess of a history little blibbering gollum. dtchurn May 2, 2017 What a lame pathetic attempt to hijack my comment childishly in all caps. Emmett was fooled by Sachs initially including the fake wharton phd where Emmett updated the review and exposed the criminal shenanigans like a “pinata” busted open. And thanks to the questioning in the comments, the diploma was pointed out as fake from a counterfeiting degree mill. So the client could have been fooled by the first review before the second. The main point is Sachs went back to his lying ways after the tradingschools spotlight passed over and showed he was just as ruthless and morally bankrupt as usual in his emails to the client concerning the refund process. So whether or not the client missed the reviews or got fooled by the first one or felt Sachs “reformed” after the updated review is completely besides the point and only mental gollums infected with the b__ks disease scream out “assume” like a silly peashot. I think gollum ironically is more obsessed with tagging my posts now in his rage and is forgetting his b__ks retro-radioactivity. Really needs help now. Paul April 28, 2017 I have requested Emmett to remove the above post. Seems he doesn’t want too. Emmett Moore April 28, 2017 Just checked some of Sean’s YouTube video’s. Maybe he is now trading with a live money account? Will need to ask him. I spoke with him about 1.5 years ago, he said he was not. Maybe he started trading live? Interesting. Paul April 29, 2017 In the trade room when he is teaching a strategy class he trades sim so he can present right and wrong examples which make sense. Nevertheless, I have witnessed him trading live many times. I’m pleased you are looking a bit deeper into this. GZT have also built this amazing indicator called VPC levels using market profile. The amazing thing about the VPC Levels you can customise it to the period you are trading and bring in a huge amount of data from longer periods. Have attached a link to save me explaining it. To get to the meat and potatoes go scroll to the 17 min start. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmdUVTEBybE Paul April 29, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmdUVTEBybE VPC link daniel August 18, 2015 Another room that seems to be reliable is chartsky.com. A lot of videos with live trades. Reply daniel August 18, 2015 Hello Emmett, thanks for the response. You´re doing a great job here. Unfortunately there are also other reviewing sites out there (for instance dr.handley) which have completely different recommendations. This is extremely confusing, Whom should I trust? Have you heard anything about felton trading? It seems to be a good trading room. They are scalpers using renko charts with a daily target of $1000. best regards, daniel Reply RV August 18, 2015 Daniel, Don’t trust anything written by Dr Handley. He is paid by sites to get a good recommendation. Emmet kinda takes it easy on him but the truth is he is like a pimp for these services. Most disturbing. More like Dr Doom. Shame on you Dean. How in the hell do you live with yourself? -RV Reply Emmett Moore August 18, 2015 Yes, I have a bunch of video on Rodger Felton. Nothing bad to report at all. Am working on a review. Reply sam March 19, 2016 daniel, Felton was banned from Big Mike’s. Similarly Jaguar Ed was exposed fabricating sim results. Felton often posted the usual vendor gibberish about trading. After questioning by members, he all but admitted he was showing sim trading. The kool-aid drinkers or plants would say how everything was ok showing sim in a room, while the frustrated , some former members would point out how Felton was often already in a winning trade when the trading room started which was explained by having multiple sim accounts going on at the same time , then choosing the winning chart when the room opened. In the last six months Emmett has been more wise to thee myriad tricks, even some newly invented every year by these scammers. Think about it, assuming one could look at themselves in the mirror perpetrating a daily scam, why would a vendor trade live when up to 50 dupes a month could be paying at a rate of $100 to $500 each from selling products or churning new members through marketing. I would think after a new scam vending business got on it’s feet the hosts would have long stopped trading live and may not even have live accounts anymore for years like WT and GTR. Reply daniel August 17, 2015 Hello Emmet, where can I find a full list of all rooms you have checked out and you undoubtedly recommend using them? Unfortunately I can´t find your recommended trading rooms. I must admit, i am really confused about your test on scalpingemini.com: I would never think that this is a scam because there is a livetradingroom offered for free for 5 days. You pay on a monthly basis and you can cancel at any time. There are videos published with the performance of the strategy. Best regards, daniel Reply Emmett Moore August 17, 2015 Hi Daniel, Regarding Scalpingemini, am currently working on an updated review. This has been difficult because the owner has two systems for sale; a scalping system that I am currently collecting performance, and a trend following system. Things should be cleared up shortly. The only room, at this point that I could recommend would be OilTradingGroup. Wish I had more to recommend, but the sad truth is the nearly every single one is a fraud. Reply Emmett Moore August 17, 2015 Trader Makers is a good once as well. Verified performance. Decent person. Reply David C July 30, 2015 What happened to The Trading Clan review? Reply Pavel August 10, 2015 I am curious as well. Emmett, do you delete those reviews? Why? Reply Emmett Moore August 10, 2015 RE: The Trading Clan…in order to maintain a positive review, I need to do a follow up review, once every 6 months. I contacted TradingClan and they have completely ignored me, as well as a few others requesting updated information and they have also ignored them. Red flag. Have gotten a few random emails that a live person is no longer moderating the room. Another red flag. A ton of traffic comes through my site, and I dont want to send them any customers if they cannot provide me with proof of performance, ie account statements. Regarding Superman Trades…I removed his review for only a few days then put it back up. I contacted Paul Scolardi and I am writing a mega review on this guy. Account statements, the addressing of various issues, the whole enchilada. It will be a fun read. But this one wont be for another week or two weeks. Everyone is going to be really surprised. Reply Ali November 9, 2015 I would like to know which live chat room would toy recommend? I have used warrior trading, which has lead me to consistently break even. I was going to try kavan klien, but after reading your review I will pass. Please let me know which live chat is best in your opinion? Thanks for all your hard work! steve July 24, 2017 Veritasfuturestrading.com appears to be Bob Amico…not again Emmett Moore July 24, 2017 Oh Bob. (sigh) Ron July 20, 2015 Hello Emmett. I thought I saw a few reviews about a trader named Superman and another was the trading clan. I can’t seem to find them. Do you delete those that have proven to be OK in the trading rooms. Thanks for your time and talents. It makes for great reading. Reply Ron July 20, 2015 Hello Emmett. I really enjoy your reporting on these people who try to screw the inexperienced want to be traders. This guy that runs the Emini trading room seems a little arrogant and boastful. Have you done a report on him before and if not would you take a look at his trading method. Thanks for your fun reviews especially the one about Jason Love, hahaha, very descriptive and “Funny” Reply Kristi Eddy July 18, 2015 Hi Emmett, First I wanted to say thanks for all your hard work in developing this website. What a refreshment to have someone actually doing complete, honest reviews. I was wondering if you have reviewed Mark Sach’s website rightlinetrading. On google, it looked like his site was referenced, but I could not find it on this website. Much thanks, Kristi Reply arnold April 22, 2015 hi Emmett can you do a review on GLOBALTRADEROOM.COM thank you for all your hard work Reply Bill April 22, 2015 I tried the Tradeshark room a while ago and that was a really bad experience. He only tried to sell you his products and it is impossible to follow his trades. If you ask him anything about what he do he say that you need to buy his E-books. (several) If you cant duplicate a trade he did then it is because I am stupid or havent read his book. Very unpleasant experience. Save your money. Another one you should stay away from and not listened to is Dean Handley. The reviews he does is BS. He only do the reviews to be able to promote hos own stuff. Reply Emmett Moore April 22, 2015 I have full thirty days of trader shark recordings that we have not yet found the time to review. These reviews take a lot of time to complete because of the sheer amount of video and hand recording of trades that need to be inputted onto a spreadsheet. Dean Handley…I think what he is attempting to do is admirable, but the truth is that he is just a simple older gentleman that is retired and works by himself at home. Anyone that believes that he actually took the time to review 787 trading rooms and hundreds of thousands of actual trades needs to get their head examined. Dean Handley is just another vendor selling a trading room. Nothing more and nothing less. However, I do not want to pick a fight with Dean. Rather, I would like to focus on what I can prove through video and research. Dean prefers to rely upon the implied credibility of his various titles “MBA, JD, etc”. Thanks for taking the time to write. Reply RV April 22, 2015 Hit the nail on the head Emmet, as usual. Reply Karma December 1, 2015 Tradershark.com Review: Zero transparency. No trading DOM or chart trader on screen. Entries are ambiguous and vague, and only acknowledged when trade has already moved into positive territory. Performance results are nonsense and not verifiable. Reply dario January 30, 2015 any information about futurestradingcoach.com ? thanks Reply Emmett Moore January 30, 2015 Hi Dario, I will begin recording Futures Trading Coach on Monday morning. Best I can do is get next weeks recording done and on Friday the 6th of January, give you a five day quick review, but in reality it takes about 21 days to get a really legitimate review. Will touch bases next Friday. Emmett Reply larry February 17, 2016 emmett try reviewing the freak from mojo trading this guy is a first class clown Reply Vince February 27, 2016 I agree. Would really appreciate a review of MOJO trading. Guy scored big last week by picking SUNE. He’s very big on promoting how open he is about showing his trades and his trading account live as the trades are done. He’s is a bit of a character and an annoying egomaniac but he does seem to be gettng results. He just started a MOJO Hedge fund too so the results from his trading are verifiable by that. Scott C. February 1, 2017 Has anyone reviewed Mojo Trading? saten sharma March 18, 2016 Hi Emmett Would really appreciate if you can do your fantastic review of the scammer of the year Scott Morris of http://theoilmoney.com/tt/tml/ Thanking you Reply Emmett Moore March 18, 2016 Ugg. Actually, spoke to Scott and his partner once. I got two days of account statements. And they were positive. Some of these reviews are not always black and white. Hopefully, I get more feedback from the trading community. And I can convince The Oil Money to use The Robot. Wait and see for sure. Scott is all promoter. Sort of a lovable rogue. He leans heavily on his partner for actual trading. dtchurn July 14, 2017 Looks like Scott Morris is back with a just-starting new site and trading room.. http://www.winningtraderoom.com/home-2/ btw , are you still in Valdemar Kongzana’s room Saten? any thoughts on tradingschools review of kongzana? a slick sleight of hand showing ninja sim profits where his supposed semi-auto strategy was making 3 to 10k a day. never fully explained how it was done. Mike M July 14, 2017 dtchurn, what is the deal with that room you highlighted? I went to the site and listened to the room logs. It seems to me they are a live call trading room, but they state in the beginning that it is for educational purposes only. They did call out live trades, but I did not sit through all of their sessions. I am just curious why you mentioned that room. I believe they are selling their software. It likes various tick charts with a repackaged macd histogram and stochastics. My first experience into futures was with software similar to this. I don’t know the accuracy of the software from that sight. I do know what it is like to buy software with repackaged arcane indicators. I don’t know what I was thinking, but I lost money right away and subsequently stopped using crazy software programs. I went from discretionary to automated signals a couple of times, but as we mentioned before it is very hard to write down exact rules to follow and be profitable all the time. A trader must be consistently in sync with the ebbs and slows of the daily market. As a result a set of rules on software could chop you up or keep you out of the market all together. I believe traders like Kevin Davey are consistently adjusting strategies as they feel conditions change. That would be a good question for him if we get a chance. Anyway I digress, just curious to your mention. Cyn July 14, 2017 You said, “As a result a set of rules on software could chop you up or keep you out of the market all together.” What about software that adjusts targets based on price movement statistics? I know one trader who has written something like that. It looked interesting, and I might just be tempted to try it out. I am not sure if he provides any trials. Mike M July 14, 2017 That would be interesting to see in action because targets should consistently be modified in correlation to volatility. I assume that trader came up with stats that he could use to improve the accuracy of his targets being hit which improves his efficiency. It would help to know what type of price movement data he uses. 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