Thanks for reading today’s update of Avenge Trading Software and Avenge Trading Room
On July 18, 2015 I wrote a pretty tough review of Avenge Trading Software and Avenge Trading Room. My main gripe was that I could not authenticate the trading inside of the trading room. There was no DOM present on the screen, no trading from the charts, or account statements to verify results. And since the trading product is quite expensive, I conducted a particularly aggressive review. My hope was that I could motivate the company into revealing some sort of real time tracking mechanism, my favorite is an old fashioned DOM or price ladder.
It is important to note that the company trades across a spectrum of different time frames. I found that the signals from the higher time frames, in particular the 10 minute and the 5 minute charts to be good. In short, the user stood a very good chance of replicating the signals from the software from the slow moving trades. However, I found that the scalp trades to be highly suspect. I simply did not believe that these signals could be replicated by the user. This issue was at the heart of my sour review.
Also in my review, I wrote that the company had shown a great deal of commitment to the product, were providing excellent customer support, and investing a great deal of money into their marketing efforts. They simply do not appear to be a fly by night operation, like the vast majority of the trading products that I review.
Collaboration With Avenge Trading Software
Whenever I post a negative review, the fly by night scammers usually disappear within a week or two. On 6 separate occasions, after posting the review and exposing the fraud, the company in question simply disconnected the phones and took down the website. However, on a handful of very rare occasions will the trading vendor reach out to me and attempt to resolve the issue. Lets face it, it is not easy to read a nasty review of your product and then contact the person that wrote the nasty review and try and bridge the difference. Its takes a lot of guts and courage to face your antagonist and offer an open hand.
I would like to thank Brandon from Avenge Trading for persistently engaging with me in hopes of working through our differences. In short, Brandon pushed through a huge change at Avenge Trading…all trades will now be on full display using a trading DOM. Full transparency. The following is a screen shot of the Avenge Trading Room, now on full display…a trading DOM.
It is important that we give Avenge Trading a lot of credit taking this risky step forward. It will either make or break the business.
It is also important that we acknowledge that they are one of the very few companies in the trading universe that are now willing to show complete transparency.
It is important that we fully support the trading vendors making positive change and are embracing transparency. I sincerely hope that my readers will give Avenge Trading the chance to show that they are authentic and offer a quality product.
You can sign up for a free trial of the trading room through the included link.
If you have any specific questions about the trading program, then please call Brandon directly at 702-832-1100.
Also, you might notice that I have increased the rating for Avenge Trading on the original review. In the next 60 days, I hope to come back and write a new review, a fully updated review based upon the new dynamic.
Speaking of POS scam artists…I think Emmett takes the cake. Nice Job Emmett on this rave review of just how trustworthy and honest your endorsements are…who’d listen to a fraudulent con artist such as yourself…just idiots who can’t think for themselves.
Major Moron is one of the vendor (probably Ace Trade Review) who got an honest and bad review from Emmett. He’s back trying to discredit this blog which can only mean that Emmett’s investigations and record of the numerous scams are hurting these scammers. That’s the reason they set up the site Major Moron refers to, it’s a clumsy attempt to discredit him. You can read all about Emmett’s past on his own blog under the “Warning” tab.
All Emmett is asking for from these vendors is to provide him 1month of verified, real trades and none of them can even demonstrate that minimal amount of success. It would be the easiest thing is the world for a vendor to discredit Emmett, simple provide your verified trading statements that support your claims. To date only 3 or 4 have been able to do this. The rest are fraudulent scammers.
Gordon Driver of Access, Ascend, Avenge sentenced to 12+ years for ponzi scam
Gordon Driver of Access, Ascebd, and Avenge sentences to 12 1/2 years…
Please you “common sense” which is NOT common at all.
The best daytrader I saw and took his signals was a fellow named Tradergod with the same name for the website. This was in 2006. He started with 10 k account on Jan 2006 and would give 1 trader most days after 15-30 minutes after the open, Usually after 15-20 minutes after the open. He would give the trade in advance meaning the price had yet to get there be it either a short of a long. He did it with chat. Apart from giving this trade the would tell you what he expected the target to be…if short maybe 15-25 points down and long the same. He had a 2.5 point stop.
If he got stopped out he waited 45 minutes before making a trade and that is if he thought there was one that would be worth it. So most times 1 trade sometimes 2. When one trade he let it run to his expected target. On Trend days down or up he made a killing.
By September 2006 he had taken his 10,000 and 2 carats at start to 250,000 on account trading 50 cars…a 2,500% return in 9 months. He track record was updated at close everyday with either a win or loss or stop out. I found him in late August as the guy I was chatting to on paltalk had his calls from June and found Tradergod from some Yahoo group and Tradergod only charged $64.00 a week and you were making gobs of points everyday if you did not get stopped out…rarely. At end of September he took a break to get married and never came back…that was the end of Tradergod..the best daytrader I have ever seen. NEVER SCALPED!!!!
I asked him many times would he teach and he said never. He said study the chart and spend 18-22 thousands hours…you will get the ‘epiphany.’ So, I did and lost of money by coursing, never any programs, rooms, indicators, scalping etc. After 5 years of doing this had to give up and get a job. Now, in the last 3 months I’m back and ALL i learnt after spending over 10,000 hours from 2005-2010 came back. I had got the ephiphany at the bottom in Dec 2010, but could not trade….no capital..and needed a job.
So now every day on TF and ES and know the high and low of the day. Some bars are most important than others and one is the most important. I do not scalp but look to get the most points for the day. I take maximum 3 trades for the day on each. So I don’t trade the 1:1 risk reward or take off 1 at 4 ticks and let the runner run. I run 3 on TF at the extremes and go for 10 points then wait for my second trade setup. At the extremes I trade 3..in the middle 2 or 1 depending. On ES 2 at the extremes and 1 in the middle. I run a $1,500 stop on TF and ES $1,000 on the close. I reverse when necessary depending on the candle, time of day. They do fake certain times. I run 15 minute chart only. I’ve had 3 1,500 stop outs and 4 1,000 stop outs. Most times at the extremes, it may go up another 3 points from my entry I buy one ( lose $300 on TF) then sell another right away. Then when it does move I easily get my 10/15/20 points.
The point of this story is I use NO indicators, no scalping, just a 15 minute chart, candlesticks, chart showing short/long breakout, long/short breakout and I know the low or high of the day. I would like to have a fractal map of next day.
So, STAY AWAY FROM ANYONE ASKING YOU FOR BIG DOLLARS for courses, programs, software etc. Its all BULL ****. If these guys could make lots of money trading they would not be a need to sell courses, systems etc. TraderGod did none of this.
The only thing I’m missing is to find another trader who trades for the bigger points like me and does not get out after 1 point and then let the runner run and sell after another 2-4 points. This is JK/SK school for me.
To make $1,000 on TF and $500 on ES everyday is very easy for me. I look for $2,000 on TF as a minimum and $1,000 on ES every day. If I’m up $2,000 I keep trading when I see an opportunity..none of this I made my 2 points for the day wrap it up bs.
Since I seeking another trader or room that trades for bigger points with 2 or 3 trades for the day……people can reply to my post with their suggestions. I’m just looking to banter with traders who trader like me (none so far)
Been to Rios Quant ( trader too many mkts and too few points on each trade…more scalping), Trademission…same scalping and if he makes 2 points for the day mostly on CL he calls it quits….What???
So if you know a great room, that traders for bigger points and please reply to my post.
Don’t pay any big money for courses, systems, books, rooms etc.
This room is showing there DOM but its a simulator not the live DOM using real money
It’s very strange, isn’t it, that Avenge Trading have such a powerful piece of trading software that prints money for anyone who buys it yet they won’t provide full financial details about its profitability to people who are being asked to pay $25,000 + $2,500 a month or $30,000 + $2,500 a month if you choose to pay by installments. If their results were so wonderful they would provide redacted trading statements because this would be the best marketing tool they could possibly have. Until they do they are just blowing hot air.
Thank you for your review update. We look forward to working with you and providing a fuller experience with our software.
A more affordable experience for my readers would really help to drive traffic.
I am more skeptical that Emmett.
Let’s start with the basics.
Will you post your live trading results to prove that you are actually trading the signals you promote in your live account?
What is your full name and what is your trading experience?
Like a lot of vendors your website lacks specific information.
What is your company address?
Surely your company has one with all the marketing that it is doing
And why is it such a secret?
Let me preface this by saying we run a fiercely competitive software, and our competitors don’t like how successful our software is. I’m happy to divulge official company information, information our competitors already know. If you’d like to hear my personal story (which I’d be happy to share), I like phone calls better.
We post better than the trading results: we video record each actual trade that we take, then send those videos to people who want to see them. For example, today our moderators finished with 12 ticks total of profit on the session, each trade performed on the newly broadcasted DOM/trading ladder for our members to watch. Feel free to email me (firstname.lastname@example.org), I’d be happy to send you a link to download that video.
We are in the process of updating our contact information on our website, thank you for pointing that out. We’re based in Henderson, Nevada. Feel free to contact us if you’re looking for an address to come visit.
I dont see any reason why readers shouldn’t give these guys the benefit of the doubt. Sure, the price is ridiculous but folks can now see live trades. Its a huge step forward. Brandon deserves more credit.
No offense but I am not into discussing this on the phone.
I want to see live proof that you are trading these signals in your live account.
Anything short of that and I think the vendor does not believe in what they are selling.
Good to see that they are attempting to provide transparency so that potential purchasers can base their decision on more than Avenge Trading’s word, especially as all money handed over is non-refundable. Did they provide 1 year of audited trading results from a real account? That should also be a minimum requirement for transparency.
For me, I’ll wait until the purchase price and monthly access fees are sensibly priced or until they agree to give it to me to use free of charge and I pay them from the trading profits I get from their product. Come on Avenge trading, I’ve got that lazy $100,000 sitting in Etrade that needs to be put to work.